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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070425essay,1,696682.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

I can understand that. He must have got his countable and uncountable nouns confused. It's "5 items or FEWER" not "5 items or LESS" you chimp.

Seriously, the teacher asked him to express himself and has the kid arrested because he does. :goodjob:

And if 'disturbing' someone else is a crime now, how come Quentin Tarrantino isn't breaking rocks? How come the whole of OT isn't in the slammer? :crazyeye:
 
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Student writes essay, arrested by police

By Jeff Long and Carolyn Starks
Tribune staff reporters
Published April 26, 2007
High school senior Allen Lee sat down with his creative writing class on Monday and penned an essay that so disturbed his teacher, school administrators and police that he was charged with disorderly conduct.

"I understand what happened recently at Virginia Tech," said the teen's father, Albert Lee, referring to last week's massacre of 32 students by gunman Seung-Hui Cho. "I understand the situation."

But he added: "I don't see how somebody can get charged by writing in their homework. The teacher asked them to express themselves, and he followed instructions."

Allen Lee, an 18-year-old straight-A student at Cary-Grove High School, was arrested Tuesday near his home and charged with disorderly conduct for an essay police described as violently disturbing but not directed toward any specific person or location.

The youth's father said his son was not suspended or expelled but was forced to attend classes elsewhere for now.

Today, Cary-Grove students rallied behind the arrested teen by organizing a petition drive to let him back in their school. They posted on walls quotes from the English teacher in which she had encouraged students to express their emotions through writing.

"I'm not going to lie. I signed the petition," said senior James Gitzinger. "But I can understand where the administration is coming from. I think I would react the same way if I was a teacher."

Cary Police Chief Ron Delelio said the charge was appropriate even though the essay was not published or posted for public viewing.

Disorderly conduct, which carries a penalty of 30 days in jail and a $1,500 fine, is filed for pranks such as pulling a fire alarm or dialing 911. But it can also apply when someone's writings can disturb an individual, Delelio said.

"The teacher was alarmed and disturbed by the content," he said.

But a civil rights advocate said the teacher's reaction to an essay shouldn't make it a crime.

"One of the elements is that some sort of disorder or disruption is created," said Ed Yohnka, a spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois. "When something is done in private—when a paper is handed in to a teacher—there isn't a disruption."

The "key outcomes" this month for the Creative English class was for students to identify and utilize poetic conventions to communicate ideas and emotions. With that in mind, teachers reminded students that if they read something that posed a threat to self or others, the school could take action, said High School District 155 Supt. Jill Hawk.

The English teacher read the essay and reported it to a supervisor and the principal. A round-table discussion with district officials conveyed, with lively debate, and they decided to report it to the police.

"Our staff is very familiar with adolescent behavior. We're very well versed with types of creativity put into writing. We know the standards of adolescent behavior that are acceptable and that there is a range," Hawk said.

"There can certainly be writing that conveys concern for us even though it does not name names location or date," he said.

The charge against Lee comes as schools across the country wrestle with how to react in the wake of the shootings at the Virginia Tech campus at Blacksburg, Va.

Bomb threats at high schools in Schaumburg and Country Club Hills have caused evacuations, and extra police were on duty at a Palos Hills high school this week because of a threatening note found in the bathroom of a McDonald's restaurant a half-mile away.

Experts say the charge against Lee is troubling because it was over an essay that even police say contained no direct threats against anyone at the school. However, Virginia Tech's actions toward Cho came under heavy scrutiny after the killings because of the "disturbing" plays and essays teachers say he had written for classes.

Simmie Baer, an attorney with the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University, called the Cary incident an example of zero-tolerance policies gone awry. Children, she said, are not as sophisticated as adults and often show emotion through writing or pictures, which is what teachers should want because it is a safe outlet.

If ya can't read it, there's the article.

Does he have a counterclaim about free speech? I'm sure we can remember the outcry against those 'freedon hating' Muslims and now a kid in the US is arrested for speaking freely :cry:
 
I think such a case will be thrown out

And I like the little part that said he had "Straight A's" :lol:
 
There is no way in hell that they can make any kind of charges stick unless the country ratified an amendment overturning the 1st while I was asleep last night.

The truth is, if having "disturbing" thoughts/desires/fantasies/whatever were a crime, the majority of the country would be in jail.

I forsee a civil suit and large settlement in this kid's future....
 
This is clearly a violation of his 1st Amendment rights. The fact that he was arrested and charged is completely despicable.

It seems this kind of stuff is getting worse and worse every time a nutter goes on a rampage.

Apparently now writing "inappropriate and disturbing" fiction is apparently enough to throw people in jail.

I mean really. If the VT massacre was not a pretext for this I would hate to see what things this DA and sherrif's dept. have jailed people for. I mean C'mon.

Sigh. Chicago...
 
Freedom of speech (press?) can be restricted through a number of reasonable ways by the government, and I don't know how it works in actual schools much less in Chicago. Providing blanket statements regarding the first amendment for every single state, age group, and establishment in this case is a no go.

What I'd really like to know is what the paper exactly said, and how the kid was arrested. Websites are making it sound like a police slammed him down into the cement and dragged him into prison. Maybe he was just asked to come along, and he consented?

Simmie Baer, an attorney with the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University, called the Cary incident an example of zero-tolerance policies gone awry. Children, she said, are not as sophisticated as adults and often show emotion through writing or pictures, which is what teachers should want because it is a safe outlet

So maybe this helps. I don't know what to think of this, the school board probably just saw a very disturbing paper and decided to take precautions before it could result in something dangerous. Sometimes annoying and severe preemptive measures are better than another shooting. Hell, we do the same damn thing with the right to privacy and terrorism already.
 
Maybe he was just asked to come along, and he consented?


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"he was charged with disorderly conduct"

"was arrested Tuesday near his home and charged with disorderly conduct"

"Cary Police Chief Ron Delelio said the charge was appropriate"

I think it's fairly obvious he was arrested.

"...We know the standards of adolescent behavior that are acceptable and that there is a range," Hawk said.

Perhaps, but unacceptable and criminal are two very different things, at least in my copy of the dictonary!
 
I think it's fairly obvious he was arrested.



Perhaps, but unacceptable and criminal are two very different things, at least in my copy of the dictonary!

ah. Good eye. :crazyeye:
 
Freedom of speech (press?) can be restricted through a number of reasonable ways by the government

You think this is a reasonable restriction?

Providing blanket statements regarding the first amendment for every single state, age group, and establishment in this case is a no go.

Actually, yes we can make blanket statements about 1st Amendment when it comes to every single state, and establishment in this case is a no go. He was is an adult so age doesn't affect this case.

The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. That means EVERYONE is protected in the US no matter where you are. No city or state law can override it.

Websites are making it sound like a police slammed him down into the cement and dragged him into prison. Maybe he was just asked to come along, and he consented?

No. It clearly says he was arrested and charged. That means they cuffed him, read him his rights, put in a car, took him to jail, booked him and then locked him up until his bail. Trust me. I have been there before on false charges.

Just because the police didn't beat him up or taze doesn't mean his rights were not violated.

The fact that being arrested for something like this ALONE is enough of a violation.
 
You think this is a reasonable restriction?

The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. That means EVERYONE is protected in the US no matter where you are. No city or state law can override it.

Yes but..; the real law of the land comes from the law of the courts. It is they who decide how the US constitution is interpreted, and it is their interpretations that allow exceptions and rules defining constitutional rights. And it is their decision that freedom of speech can be restricted from say, incitement of violence. Show where it says that in the Bill of Rights, without looking in court law, man. I won't accept a blanket statement on freedom of speech inside schools until I find a case precedent where the court explicitly states that freedom of speech/press doesn't leave a student while entering schools, either by state of federal.

Are the restrictions reasonable? Most of them are. But was restricting a student's freedom to write whatever he wanted in a school reasonable? I have no idea! That all depends on what law he's being put under.
 
Yes but..; the real law of the land comes from the law of the courts. It is they who decide how the US constitution is interpreted.

I don't know of single SC court ruling since WWI that has made written words (outside of violent threats) a criminal offense.

The other restrictions (libel, slander) I know off are covered by civil law. Not criminal law.

1st Amendment rights are limited in school. Thats true.

But what happens when a student violates the school rules? Are they arrested and thrown in jail? No. They are sent to dentention or suspended. (Unless of course the school offense was crime on the books)

But the problem isn't even with the school. Its with the idiot DA who did his warrant for arrest.
 
I can't pass judgement on this student before I read the actual essay. Although, I am inclined to agree that this entire case is extremely shaky, and doesn't appear to abide by the Constitution.
 
Now I just want to read the essay.

As long as he wasn't threatening anyone, or saying "I'm going to do like Cho did, and blow you all away!" or anything like that, I don't see the problem. You shouldn't be arrested for turning in a paper which doesn't violate any laws.
 
This isn't shouting fire in a movie theater

'nuff said
 
This is extremely wrong.

This not only is ridiculous, but it infringes on his rights to free speech and to express what he wants.

And to arrest him for stating an opinion is even worse.

What the police are saying:

"You have no right to express your opinions."

When our Founding Fathers laid out the rules right in Independence Hall, they meant the Bill of Rights. Probably, John Hancock's rolling around in his grave!

This is America! The land of the free! The home of the brave! This is only a symbol of fascism, oppression, and the opposite of America.

So please. Don't be ridiculous. The politically correct world has gone too far.

Release this innocent man!
 
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