Asian Leader head request

I just had an idea: You're going to make a Burman LH, right? And you'd like to do a female LH, right? So why not make a female Burman LH :) : Aung San Suu Kyi. You know, the democracy activist and Nobel prize winner who is arrested by the military junta of Myanmar. She might not be a leader in the classical sense, but Gandhi isn't either.

Besides I think it would be a great thing to 'support' the democracy movement in Myanmar by this means. Call me an idealist, if you want, but IMHO a non-violent human rights activist could be a nice exception, as most other Civ leaders are warlords and emperors.

Here's a picture of her:
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Aion said:
Call me an idealist, if you want, but IMHO a non-violent human rights activist could be a nice exception, as most other Civ leaders are warlords and emperors.
Don't forget Gandhi! Although, I have had frequent enough experiences playing civ where Gandhi has been very belligerent, threatening and attacking me without apparent cause, which always struck me as ironic and incongruous. I mean, it's understandable when Chinggis Khan does it, but Gandhi??
 
hmm
I hate giving modern leaders to civs. But since I dont see a better option.... I may do her. Anyone else? Thailand, Java, China, Annam, Malacca, Srivijayan, Kashmir, Xnong nu, Tibet, Silla/Jeoson/Kogoryo, Bengal. Asia is a big place any needed civs? And replacement heads? Anyone?
 
Ho Chi-Minh is a modern leader too, isn't he? ;) And I think Aung San Suu Kyi is far more known than Anawrahta.

About the other Civs you mentioned:
- Thailand: RX8FT did a great Suriyothai, I don't think she needs to be replaced.
- Java: Rita Poon did a Malay LH called Hayam Wuruk. Actually that LH was misnamed, as Hayam Wuruk was a Javanese leader, and Rita Poon's LH was definitely Malay. So a real Javanese LH could be needed... ;)
- China: Well, we have Firaxis' Mao and what's the other guy from the chinese Civ version called? And we have your Three Kingdoms LHs, though they're only single era. I don't know that much about chinese history, so I don't know if there are other leaders that would need to be done.
- Annam: Isn't that quite much the same as Vietnam? :dubious:
- Malacca: That's a region in Malaysia, isn't it? Rita Poon's Hayam Wuruk is a great Malay LH (although he needs to be renamed)
- Srivijayan: What the heck is that? :confused: EDIT: Okay, I googled, it's an ancient Sumatran kingdom.
- Kashmir: More Indian LHs would be cool, but do we really need Kashmir? I'd rather go for Vijayanagar (South India) or Sri Lanka
- Xiong Nu: CivArmy did a Xiong Nu LH, so that's not first priority.
- Tibet: Same thing about Tibet, CivArmy just redid his Gyatso.
- Silla/Jeoson/Kogoryo: never heard :confused: EDIT: Google told me: they're Korean kingdoms. We already have Firaxis' Wang Kon, though.
- Bengal: Yeah, that would be cool! :)
 
Okay, I'll do a formal request list: :)

Burma: Aung San Suu Kyi (see above)

Java: Hayam Wuruk (but this time the real Hayam Wuruk)
Hayam Wuruk (1334 -1389) was the ruler of the Javanese Hindu state of Majapahit at the time of its greatest power. Under his rule, Majapahit extended its power throughout the Indonesian archipelago.
I couldn't find a pic of him, sorry.
As I already said, Rita Poon's Malay LH is absolutely great, but IMHO it's misnamed, Sultan Parameswara could be a better name.

Vijayanagar: Krishnadevaraya
I think Vijayanagar would be a good civ to represent Southern India.
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About Vijayanagar (from Wikipedia):
The Vijayanagara empire was based in the Deccan, in peninsular and southern India, from 1336 onwards. It was founded by Harihara, also known as Hakka, and his brother Bukka Raya. It is named after its capital city (now ruined) of Vijayanagara, in modern Karnataka, India. It lasted from about 1336 to perhaps about 1660, though throughout its last century it was in a slow decline due to a massive and catastrophic defeat at the hands of an alliance of the sultanates, and the capital was taken and brutally razed and looted. Its foundation, and even great part of its history, is obscure; but its power and wealth are attested by more than one European traveller, such as the Portuguese travelers, Domingo Paes, and Nuniz.
About Krishnadevaraya:
Sri Krishnadevaraya (శ్రీ క్రిశ్ణదేవరాయ ) was a Vijaynagar emperor who presided over the empire at its zenith and ruled from 1509 till his death in 1529. He was a contemporary of Henry VIII. The accounts of his reign have been told by Portuguese travelers, Domingo Paes and Nuniz.

He subdued a local ruler, Prataparudra and seized lands up to the Krishna river. In 1516-1517, he pushed beyond the Godaveri river.

The highlight of his conquests occurred on May 19, 1520 where he secured the fortress of Raichur from Ismail Adil Shah of Bijapur where 16,000 of Vijaynagar soldiers were killed. At such a campaign against Raichur, 703,000 foot soldiers, 32,600 cavalry and 551 elephants were used. However, the king was known to have used victory with humanity and moderation. Finally, in his last battle, he razed to the ground the fortress of Gulburga, the early capital of the Bahmani sultanate.

Sri Lanka: This could be a nice civ, but I don't know who would be a good leader, and right now I don't have the time for researching.

Bengal: Also a decent civ, but again: Some research would be needed.

Harappans / Indus civlization: I'll repeat my request for a Harappan LH, although I admit it's a tricky one. We don't know hardly anything about them, so much fantasy would be needed....
If you need inspiration, here are some pics:
priestHarappa.jpg

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harappa.jpg

If you should choose to do this one, I'll of course try to assist you with more information.

By the way, I'll be away for a week, so I won't be able to comment on your work. But of course I expect your Asian Leaderhead Pack to be done when I return ;)
 
as I might have said before, I dont really care if others had made the same leader heads, Giving people more options is better. Such as Tokugawa from civ3 which is pretty horrible, he isnt wearing japanese clothing in any of the eras and looks nothing like the Tokugawa the Japanese see him as. The korean leader head wears european clothing in medivil era?? And some people may have some problems with R8FXT and civamrys leader heads (Im not saying anyone does ^.^;;) but wouldnt you like to have more varity?
 
here is the hit list, I want you people to fill in the blanks I have

Pack 1 India and the south East
Asoka (India)
Ho Chi Mihn (Vietnam)
Prithvi Shah (Nepal)
Ramkhamhaeng (Sukhothai;Thailand)
Generic Queen (South East Asia)

Pack 2 Japan and Korea
Jimmu/Meiji (Yamato;Wa/Japan)
Sho Hashi (Ryukyu Kingdom)
Koshamain (Ainu)
Jingu Kogo (Yamato;Wa/Japan)
Sejong (Korea)

***Maybe a break to do non asian heads, another request voting thread?***

Pack 3 China and the Steppes
Attila (Huns)
Songtsen Gampo (Tibet)
dont know
dont know
dont know

Oceania and the South East
(Hawaii)
(Indonesia)
Malietoa(Polynesia;Samoa)
dont know
dont know

note: List isnt finished and opened to suggestions
 
Some suggestions :) :

China and the Steppes (also include Central Asia and the Himalayas)
Bhutan - Shabdrung Ngawang Namgyel (info here: Monarchs of Bhutan
Not a really important leader, of course. Bhutan is not a real major power.
China - Wu Zetian; a.k.a. "Empress Wu"
China needs more variety in its leaderheads. ;)

Oceania
The Marianas Islands - Chief Kepuha of the Chamorros (info here: History of Guam)
Technically a leader of Guam, but the island of Guam is the largest and most major of the Marianas Islands
I'm also from the island of Guam, so if you're interested in doing anything like this, I could provide information ;)
 
Some things to say. The Mao leaderhead is not 'Horrid'. I think they did a good job. And he wasn't a horrible leader. I mean, the Chinese still revere him, and not just because the Goverment says so. I know he did some dumb things *KAFF*culturalrevolution*KAFF*, but look at the Offical CCP statement on Mao. "If Mao is two hands, three fingers are bad, but seven are still good."

ANY DANG WAY

Leaders for China

Empress Wu - Seconded by Me
Sun Yatsen - Leader of the Chinese republic in the1920s. Seen as a father figure both by the GMT (Gou Mingtang or Nationalists) and the CCP (Chinese Communist Party)
Qin Shi Huang - The Great Unifier of China, 221 BC
Deng Xiaoping - Mao's sucsessor. The Great Reformer. A must for any Late Cold War Scenarios.
Chaing Kai Shek - Famous GMT leader, Ruler of Tiwan as well. CivArmy already made him.. but he is waaaaay too old
Madame Chaing Kai Shek - Chaing's Wife. A Powerfull woman.

Manchuria
Empress Dowager Cixi - Last True Ruler of the Qing Dyansty. Kept control of China for many decades.
Pu Yi - Cixi's Sucsessor and the Last Emperor. Became the Puppet Empeor of the Japanese Puppet state of Manchukou during World War Two. Probably better or WWII Scenarios than the BAM.

Korea
Syngman Rhee - President of South Korea from its inseption. A Very tough man, some could call him a dictator. And would be a Boon to my Korean War Scenario.
Kim Il-Sung -Dictator of North Korea from 1948-1996, as well as a resister to the Japanese during WWII. Also needed for the Korean War Mod.
 
hmm...
I tend to frown on leaders of more modern times. Im actually looking for new civs rather than just replacements.... and Pu Yi was barely a ruler, it would be like having the current emperor of Thailand or Japan for Civ 3 instead of their prime ministers. Same reason I use the chinese civ 3 chinese ruler. Anyways, I am really looking for new Asian civs, that said. Here are the people Im thinking about from the current requests:

Kim Il Sung, reasons: Korean war, Cold war senarios. *may be one era*
Empress Dowager Cixi, reasons: want to make more female rulers, Im impressed by the Qing, and it is a needed civ
Empress Wu, reasons: requested about 4 times so I belive she is needed
Shabdrung Ngawang Namgyel, reasons: needed civ
Chief Kepuha of the Chamorros, reasons needed civ
 
Okay.. haw about the

Kara-Khitai: Steppe people who lived around Modern day Kyrgyzstan. Thier Capital would be Balasagun. They were very powerful and created a strong empire... untill they were conquered by Genghis Khan.

Leader: Yelü Dashi
 
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