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[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Well maybe i overreacted and Blackbeard seems like a nice leader to have in the game, despite him being anglosaxon. Just hope that by the end of the development cycle, the other parts of the world will get some love too, because it seems likely they'll add more leaders from America or England.

Or you could look at it and say this is our first leader from the Carribean?

 

[Ryansinbela]

I would have preferred Toussaint Louverture or Anacoana as that rep but Teach is a guilty choice of mine so he’s cool

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I would have preferred Toussaint Louverture or Anacoana as that rep but Teach is a guilty choice of mine so he’s cool

Well yeah, I don't disagree with that. It is crazy to think about that our first official leader and civ from the Carribean might be Blackbeard and the Pirate Republic.

 

[MarcosQuadros]

Or you could look at it and say this is our first leader from the Carribean?

considering how lackluster latin america and africa are right now.. i prefer to just consider him an english pirate lol

 

[TheGrayFox]

Eh? Iceland was settled in 874, that's 1151 years of continuous history, a lot more than other civilizations we've seen.

but the vast vast majority of those 1151 years of continious history was spent as direct subjects of Norway and Denmark and the only claim to fame an independent Iceland has during its short period of sovereignity was a similarly short lived and completely failed/often forgotten intercontinental colony/outpost

 

[Evie]

Looking at it era wise, assuming these four are one expansiin, then Maori are modern, Tonga is Ancient, and Pirates and Iceland are both likely exploration, because pirates want the treasure fleet era, and Iceland screams exploration.

Iceland wonder random guess: Anse-aux-Meadows, which must be built in distant lands.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Ottoman would most likely be Exploration

 

[Evie]

Right, I had forgotten the other civ.

I may well eat my hat if the Ottomans aren't hanging out with the Mughals in Modern - there's no one else that make sense (outside Iran) for the Middle East 1750-1950. Whereas pre-1500 you can't throw a perfectly inoffensive cherry blossom in the Middle East without hitting a Turkic empire, including a *lot* of heavy hitters - Seljuk, Timurids, the works. Not to mention Byzantium, Armenia, etc, who all want to represent that same area too.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Ottomans show as an Independent Power in Exploration

 

[Evie]

Where they make sense as an independent power and as a civ are not the same question.

Yes, instinctively without thinking about the bigger picture, the Ottoman make the most sense in exploration. Make sense for an independant power, who need no further consideration.

But there are basically three options west of Iran in the 1750-1950 window: the House of Saud in some form (an extremely controversial choice on every level), Muhammad Ali's egypt (maaaaybe, but still would be a huge surprise!) or the obvious Ottomans who ran most of the area (okay, maybe the Hashemites too).

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

but the vast vast majority of those 1151 years of continious history was spent as direct subjects of Norway and Denmark and the only claim to fame an independent Iceland has is short lived and completely failed often forgotten intercontinental colony/outpost

Yeah, that's why Exploration makes the most sense. If the Atomic Age turns out to be real, they could go there too.

Ottoman would most likely be Exploration

I'm not entirely sure considering they lasted through to WWI.

Ottomans show as an Independent Power in Exploration

Lisbon also shows up as an IP in Modern, and I doubt the Portuguese will be Modern. I think it's more likely they could show up as an IP in one age, and then become a full civ in another. IP names could also just easily be changed.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Yeah there is a chance some stuff might be different. Modern was actually where I thought the Ottomans would go

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

Because that way, they could be the successor to the inevitable Exploration Age Byzantium.

 

[Xandinho]

Pirate Republic, Iceland, Tonga, and the Māori all make perfect sense for a DLC focused on maritime navigation. I never expected Pirate Republic to be a playable civ someday—I wonder what its associated wonder could be.

I always thought the Taíno would be the first playable civ from the Caribbean, with Anacaona as their leader. Come on, is there any more iconic Indigenous Latin American female leader than her? I just hope she gets added someday.

As for Iceland, it wouldn’t be my personal choice for the Viking civ, but it’s still cool. Could we get Viking Norway someday as well? Even though there would be a lot of overlap, one doesn’t rule out the other. We still don’t know how many civs this game will have in the end, as they’re really digging deep into their choices.

 

[TheGrayFox]

Yeah, that's why Exploration makes the most sense. If the Atomic Age turns out to be real, they could go there too.

Oh yeah Iceland wouldn't make any sense anywhere other than Exploration Age. It's obvious if they're adding in Iceland, the plan would be to lean into the whole Lief Erikson and Thorfinn exploring/settling Greenland and Canada sthick with a sprinkle of Althing.

Personally I'd just prefer Norway or Denmark but I could see how they could make an interesting Civ out of Iceland.

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

Personally I'd just prefer Norway or Denmark but I could see how they could make an interesting Civ out of Iceland

Sukritact sure managed it in VI, so I’m sure Firaxis can make something at least half as good

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

What would the wonders be for Iceland, the Pirates & Maori?

They could probably use a specific Marae

 

[GeneralZift]

I thought Iceland would be a Modern age end Civ to the Vikings in Archaic and somebody else in between

 

[The Fanatical]

The wonders are included with the Civs also Hagia Sophia would probably be used for when they add Byzantium

Most likely, but I hope Firaxis gives it a Christian design this time with a cross on top of the dome, with fewer buttresses, without the four minarets, and with the column of Justinian adorning it on the side. It will be unacceptable if it is associated with the Byzantines with an Ottoman look. The Ottomans have other beautiful original mosques, so Firaxis doesn't need to portray the Hagia Sophia as a mosque too.

Taq Kasra would be cool though. Maybe the Gur-e Amir?

Or the Kākh-e Ardashir-e Pāpakān.

 

[Boris Gudenuf]

Don't forget, Iceland has a long history of inclusive government and the major literary tradition associated with Scandinavian culture: as a Civ they can wear several hats and not just a Viking helmet.

As for the Ottomans, yes they existed until after WWI (barely) but if the game tends to represent Civs at their Peak, for the Ottomans that was the Exploration Age, at least up to the 1680s (Siege of Vienna). The fact that there's a lot of competition for that Age/geographical spot is, frankly, no different from the Mediterranean Coast/Classical-Antiquity Age, where the game has never had any problem including Rome, Greece, Egypt and (usually) Carthage all at once.

And if the Seljuks/Turkic Khanates are both considered Central Asian Civs, that would lessen the congestion in the middle east considerably: a Central Asian progression of Yamnaya/Scythian/Sarmatian/Xiong-Nu to Seljuk/Sogdian/Gok-Turk/Mongol to Imperial Russia would accomplish that nicely.