Autumn 2017 Patch General Discussion

[Amrunril]

Those are usually expansion types of things.

There are definitely some issues with the game (such as tourism doing nothing but acting as a culture victory counter) where fixes seem more like expansion material than patch material. None of the things I mentioned, though, would need any new mechanics to fix, just some numerical tweaks and playtesting of the results. That's exactly the sort of thing patches are for.

 

[Disgustipated]

anyone know if the patch overwrites files you've modified? I haven't really been running mods, but I have modified a few of my files. I may verify integrity of my files just to be on the safe side.

 

[Katakanja]

I'm not so sure. It seemed like I was getting Theocracy bonuses one game when I never run that government.

You definitely got got the bonuses you were meant to be getting, even if they disappeared. As for the random bonuses that appeared as well, I can't say I ever noticed them applying, but I didn't attempt to track them myself, which is something I did do for the Classical Republic GP's I was meant to be getting etc

 

[Dragabond]

New beliefs for those that have asked:

Pantheon: City Patron Goddes- +25% Production toward districts in cities without a specialty district.
Pantheon: Earth Goddess- +1 Faith from tiles with Charming or better Appeal.
Pantheon: Religious Idols (changed)- +2 Faith from Mines over Luxury or Bonus resources (was +1)

Worship Building: Der-e Mehr- +3 Faith, +1 additional faith for each era since constructed or last repaired
Worship Building: Stupia- +3 Faith, +1 Amenity

Follower Belief: Choral Music- Shrines and Temples provide Culture equal to their intrinsic Faith output
Follower Belief: Warrior Monks- Allows spending Faith to train Warrior Monks, medieval land combat units with a unique promotion tree. May only be purchased in a city with a Temple in its Holy Site.

Founder Belief: Cross-Cultural Dialogue- +1 Science for every 5 followers of this Religion in other civilizations.
Founder Belief: Religious Unity- +1 Envoy at each city-state when it first adopts this religion, in addition to any envoy from a city-state quest.

Enhancer Belief: Burial Grounds- Culture Bomb adjacent tiles when completing a Holy Site
Enhancer Belief: Religious Colonization- Cities start with this religion in place if founded by a player who has this as their majority religion.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

New beliefs for those that have asked:

Pantheon: City Patron Goddes- +25% Production toward districts in cities without a specialty district.
Pantheon: Earth Goddess- +1 Faith from tiles with Charming or better Appeal.
Pantheon: Religious Idols (changed)- +2 Faith from Mines over Luxury or Bonus resources (was +1)

Worship Building: Der-e Mehr- +3 Faith, +1 additional faith for each era since constructed or last repaired
Worship Building: Stupia- +3 Faith, +1 Amenity

Follower Belief: Choral Music- Shrines and Temples provide Culture equal to their intrinsic Faith output
Follower Belief: Warrior Monks- Allows spending Faith to train Warrior Monks, medieval land combat units with a unique promotion tree. May only be purchased in a city with a Temple in its Holy Site.

Founder Belief: Cross-Cultural Dialogue- +1 Science for every 5 followers of this Religion in other civilizations.
Founder Belief: Religious Unity- +1 Envoy at each city-state when it first adopts this religion, in addition to any envoy from a city-state quest.

Enhancer Belief: Burial Grounds- Culture Bomb adjacent tiles when completing a Holy Site
Enhancer Belief: Religious Colonization- Cities start with this religion in place if founded by a player who has this as their majority religion.

Thank you, sir!

 

[SammyKhalifa]

City Patron and the two enhancers seem especially interesting to me.

 

[Bechhold]

City Patron Goddess, and Earth Goddess new beliefs.

 

[Xandinho]

Then the Angkor Wat is a wonder of growth, as I imagined it would be. It seems to be worth to build now, while it was practically useless in civ5.

 

[Uncle_Joe]

No balance tweaks to encourage coastal cities?

Isn't there less incentive now to make coastal cities if the AIs are more competent/aggressive on the water?

I was kind of hoping they would boost the desire to settle on the water to showcase any upgrades in the AI naval handling...

 

[DWilson]

So, one enhancer is basically a Khmer ability?

 

[Cerilis]

Something might be borked with the CS placement. Or did this happen before (random map)?

Spoiler :

This is my second turn seeing the settler and he moved, so he didnt spawn there. He might still be searching for a spot.

Update! Next turn, the settler settled in place. Maybe it's a feature, not a bug! Late spawning CS!

 

[iammaxhailme]

Looking in the civlopedia, these seem to be the new beliefs:

- Pantheon
City Patron Goddess - +25% production in cities WITHOUT a specialty district
Earth Goddess - +1 faith from tiles with charming or better appeal

- Worship Buildings
Dar-e Mehr - 3 faith, 1 faith for each era since you built it/it was last repaired
Stupa - 3 faith, 1 amenity

- Follower beliefs:
Warrior Monks - Can buy warrior monks with faith
Choral Music - Shrines and Temples give culture equal to their faith

- Founder beliefs:
Cross Cultural DIalogue - +1 science for every 5 followers in other cities
Religious Units - +1 envoy at each city state when it first adopts this religion

- Enhancer belifs:
Burial Grounds - cultural bomb tiles when completing a holy site (recycled code!!!)
Religious Colonization - Cities start with this religion if founded by a player with this religion as its majority

Edit: fudge, somebody beat me to it

 

[VGT]

If any deluxe owner can't find new leaders when creating new game, like me - enable all Firaxis related additional content. For some unknown reason few DLC (Aztecs, Poland) got disabled in my setup even though I never disabled them before. Also newest DLC was disabled in my case.

 

[iammaxhailme]

There are two new maps:
- East Asia
- East Asia TSL

I assume these are new, at least...

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Looking in the civlopedia, these seem to be the new beliefs:

- Pantheon
City Patron Goddess - +25% production in cities WITHOUT a specialty district
Earth Goddess - +1 faith from tiles with charming or better appeal

- Worship Buildings
Dar-e Mehr - 3 faith, 1 faith for each era since you built it/it was last repaired
Stupa - 3 faith, 1 amenity

- Follower beliefs:
Warrior Monks - Can buy warrior monks with faith
Choral Music - Shrines and Temples give culture equal to their faith

- Founder beliefs:
Cross Cultural DIalogue - +1 science for every 5 followers in other cities
Religious Units - +1 envoy at each city state when it first adopts this religion

- Enhancer belifs:
Burial Grounds - cultural bomb tiles when completing a holy site (recycled code!!!)
Religious Colonization - Cities start with this religion if founded by a player with this religion as its majority

Edit: ****, somebody beat me to it

Still appreciate it, though! Some of us won't be able to get on quite yet. Thanks for getting off the game a bit to put it up.

 

[iammaxhailme]

I seem to remember the indonesia announcement saying something was NON-lake coastal tiles, but all their abilities seem to say "coast or lake", unles I"m missing some. Nice

 

[leandrombraz]

Enhancer Belief: Burial Grounds- Culture Bomb adjacent tiles when completing a Holy Site

I really like that they added this belief. I hope they add more ways for a Civ that doesn't have inherent cultural bomb to get it, like a CS suzerain bonus that give cultural bomb to Encampments. It take some of the uniqueness of the Civs that have it but it's an ability that imo shouldn't be exclusive to a few Civs.

 

[agonistes]

Always looking for amenities, new building might be a new favorite for me.

 

[iammaxhailme]

Indonesia agenda:
- Archipelagic state: Likes civs who avoid settling or conquering cities on small landmasses. Hates anyone with numerous cities on such islands

Khmer agenda:
- An end to sufering: Likes civs with many holy sites and high avg pop. Dislikes civs lacking in either of these areas.

 

[iammaxhailme]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....569/2B8C75344C9BB78AFDA266D956CA0FB0BBE76735/

East Asia TSL is not great for Indonesia lol