Aztec War Plans - Discussion

[GenMarshall]

With the recent Delcration of War against the Aztecs. I have decided to post up a Plan for the Aztec War, Since we cannot go back. We must deal with the Out comes. May I present the Aztec War Maps. By the looks of things we would need a Main Attack force for the Aztec Mainland while the Southern 3 Cities can be taken down with a medium force.

 

[disorganizer]

we could also rely on the egypts going against the northern cities and concentrate on defending our are from aztecs coming from the north and directly caputre cities on the south of them...

we do have a military-aliance with egypt, right?


one thing:
if we get cities on the "other side of egypt", those will propably be drastically corrupted and egypt will sooner or later be annoyed with us taking "their" lands and try to provoke us.

so if we capture any aztec cities, we also need to prepare for a future war against egypt...

maybe the best tactics is really to prevent aztecs from coming into our lands, block any settler and other units and just let greece and egypt fight this war.
after the 20 turns are over, we could then sue for peace with america and aztecs.

 

[disorganizer]

hmmm.... maybe also another idea:
when we secured our defense, we could try to "capture the south", meaning the aztec cities:
"Tamuin"
"Teayo"
"Cempoala" (will propably be destroyed)

And on their mainland the cities:
"Xochicalco"
"Tula"

first priority would go the the first 3, as they are on "our peninsula"

i think the egypts will try to recapture pi-ramses... if we help them build up their military maybe they even manage to go further into the aztec mainland...

 

[Bootstoots]

Looks good, CG. I like that proposal...it looks like a well-thought out plan.

 

[donsig]

My fellow citizens,

I wish to thank CivGeneral for beginning this discussion.

I do not agree that we should split our forces into two groups. We currently have on e stack of 9 Legions (1 regular, 7 veteran and 1 elite) east of Heliopolis. We have 2 more veteran Legions one turn away from the stack and an elite Legion two turns away. I do not see that we will be able to add to this force. Splitting our forces into two groups of six Legions each does not seem as good an idea as concentrating our forces to strike a series of single blows. Especially since the cities of Pi-Rameses, Xochicalco are built on hills. (As are Teayo and Tamuin in the south.)

We must also consider the goals of this war. This is not a war of conquest. We are not seeking to absorb all of Azteca. We do not want to use all our productive energy on this war. We want to be able to continue building settlers and infrastructure. So we must make do with what we have. We must remember that the purpose of this war is to keep our neighbors busy fighting amongst themselves while we build up our empire (kingdom?).

Therefore I suggest we concentrate our forces and by-pass those cities built on hills. The loss of Pi-Rameses has left Egypt without iron. I suggest our stack of 9 Legions move to the iron near Pi-Rameses and pillage it. This will allow our three remaining Legions in the area to join the stack. Then our 12 Legions should march on Tzintzuntzen and lay seige to that city. Once that city is captured we should then march on Tlatelolco. From there we can march on the capital of Aztecs, pillaging another iron source along the way. I suspect that as we reach the capital our alliance with Egypt will have run its course and we can then enter serious peace negotiations with the Aztecs. I suggest we ask for the southern cities of Cempoala, Tamuin and Teayo at the bargaining table. I do not suggest keeping Tlatelolco or Tzintzuntzen. We can trade the two cities back to Monty for the three southern cities if need be. If not we can give one or two to Cleopatra.

Thank you,
donsig

EDIT: ps: There is a regular Aztec spearman on a hill SE of Heliopolis (next to our stack) and a regular Aztec swordsman and regular Aztec archer due S of our stack. A veteran Legion in our stack would have a 66% chance of defeating either the spearman or the swordsman. Our elite Legion would have a 77% chance of victory against either. The chances of taking out the archer are 98% to 99%.

Of course, the Aztecs have the option to attack us first or withdraw. Their victory chances if they attack our elite Legion are; swordman 10%, archer 1%, spearman <1%.

If the Aztec units are still within our stack's attacking radius we should consider attacking with our elite unit in hopes of getting a leader.

 

[GenMarshall]

@Donsig - We do need to split up some of our forces to get the Cities Indicated in the Green Path. I understand that you dont want to split our forces, but We need to keep the Aztec Army from reenforcing and try to Sneek away. The Southern Route Indicated in Blue Path is our Secondary Route. We can produce more Legonares to replace the fallen. Besides, the Green path is an Alternate Pathway.

 

[Bootstoots]

I think we should go for this plan. We can always stop it mid-stream if we want peace, and we will have won a lot of territory in the process. Let's go with it, even if we don't want to conquer all of Azteca.

 

[Eklektikos]

Personally I'd rather we devoted as little energy to fighting the Aztecs as possible. We should perhaps think about taking Pi-Ramesses to deny them the iron they require to have a shot at hurting us, but apart from that we have little or nothing to gain from launching a full scale invasion at this point.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

I agree with Eklektikos. Pick off Aztec oncomers in hopes of getting a Great Leader maybe, but do not try to take any cities. Once on roads in Aztec territory, our Legions will once again be sitting ducks waiting to be injured and eventually picked off by Aztec Swordsman. We will not even get close to the capital with 12 Legions.

Also, I noticed we have already moved our border troops forward in this war. We will need these troops back in place by the end of our alliance with Egypt. If that can't happen, then we shouldn't pursue any of this.

 

[donsig]

Do we attack the spearman with our elite?