balance change .....

[daladinn]

i have to ask this yet again....

is there any way? can we please ? change losha valas so that she requires fuedalism in addition to fanatacism?

 

[Sureshot]

theres a whole thread for balance changes

and fanaticism is the requirement for many powerful heroes, so that shouldnt be changed.

 

[daladinn]

currently fanaticism is the ONLY req for losha. sureshot , i know your good , can you play with her a lil bit. for a base 8 hero , able to get immortal easily , and a vampire ... honestly its a bit early for her. fanaticism already reqs monarchy so pushing her req back a few techs and making you able to get the basic str6 vamps before you get her does not seem like a long stretch to me and might balance her a little bit more.

 

[loki1232]

This deserves the balance thread but I think that Losha should require some recon tech and also fanatacism,

 

[Sureshot]

the thing you have to look at is that losha comes with fanaticism and that other units do as well.

Chalid Astrakan - 8 strength summoner, can summon the host of erinjin or some such, which can easily wipe out nations
Stygian Guards - 7 strength unit with march andseveral other promotions
Paramanders/Crusaders - 6 strength
Donald Lugh - 9 strength melee spellcaster
Corlindale - 2 strength heavy peace oriented caster
Flagbearer - 5 strength unit with bonuses for other units in stack

Losha is not overly powerful in that list. She has to kill something living for her immortality every time she dies (so i doubt the AI uses her well, and players can easily take her out because of this). And don't forget, she's only 1 unit, someone with scores of stygians is easily gonna wipe out someone with 1 immortal vamp.

Personally I've made the recon line all girls and from hunter onward vamps, because the calabim need earlier vampirism, so that kinda gets you what you wanted heh (tho i moved hunters to tracking like i always do, and all units with vampirism require governors manor=code of laws in addition to tracking)

 

[Silverkiss]

Well, If you build up and have some nice cities, as soon as you get Losha you can get her to 1k exp and all promotions avaiable, so it isn´t THAT easy to take her out even with an army of Stygians....

 

[Sureshot]

units with 1000xp arent hard to deal with, especially using undead stygians (no immortal promo for her when she kills them)

but talkin about what can possibly happen shouldnt be the subject for balance, archmages are not balanced, losha wouldn't stand up to an archmage for two turns even if she was lucky. but losha is in the general area of the other units, and Chalid could prolly kill her no problem with the host of erinjar.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

As an avid user of Chalid, I'd say that fire elementals are better for hero-busting. 10 strength, as opposed to 9. I suppose you could level up an Einherjar with non-empower promotions to make Losha easier to kill, but it all depends on the situation you're in. I'd take Chalid over Losha any day. Chalid doesn't have to go back to his capital every time one of his summons loses a combat.

 

[uberfish]

You can get the Baron at a similar tech level too, so I don't think Losha is overbalanced. Playing calabim I get feudalism first anyway as Losha can't be everywhere by herself at once.