[RD] Berkeley Riots

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Could someone start a thread where wanton violence and indiscriminate property damage ISN'T openly celebrated? I mean that would be nice wouldn't it?
 
Manfred Belheim said:
True. I know that when I get upset or frustrated about something, I tend to just vandalise the nearest bit of property. Totally understandable.
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What do you get upset or frustrated about? You clearly enjoy your privileged status, and tolerate the most disgusting things a person can do or say as long as it doesn't affect you directly, so I can't see how you have any experience to speak from on this issue.
 
Lexicus said:
Citation needed.
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Martin Luther King said:
But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.
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Lexicus said:
Milo was planning to out undocumented students on a live stream. Keeping him from speaking was keeping those students safe. And you have the nerve to talk about fantasy worlds?
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What is an "undocumented student"? (i suppose it has to do with illegal immigration etc? if so, how can one be a student if they haven't shown documents making them eligible to be accepted as students? ) (maybe it means something else, not sure :) )

Re Milo, he is just playing the trollfest that is US (and not just US) media. You can think of him as a real-life Borat-type character.

And he comes across as smarter than the cretins in the media (which could have admittedly been a taller order than now), eg this genius who has him on his show:

He even called him jewish :lol: (with that surname you can tell he is greek)
 
Manfred Belheim said:
Could someone start a thread where wanton violence and indiscriminate property damage ISN'T openly celebrated? I mean that would be nice wouldn't it?
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Oh god, won't someone PLEASE think of the bank branches???
 
Kyriakos said:
Re Milo, he is just playing the trollfest that is US (and not just US) media. You can think of him as a real-life Borat-type character.
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No, I can think of him as a person whose antics have already caused people to fear for their lives. He was banned from Twitter because his treatment of one of the stars of the Ghostbusters remake led to that person receiving a large number of death threats.

Milo is not just some funny troll, he's a menace. My only regret about this Berkeley thing is that they didn't lynch him.

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Lexicus said:
No, I can think of him as a person whose antics have already caused people to fear for their lives. He was banned from Twitter because his treatment of one of the stars of the Ghostbusters remake led to that person receiving a large number of death threats.

Milo is not just some funny troll, he's a menace.
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Twitter isn't the arbiter on who is what ;) And it is highly unlikely that among tv/media figures causing polarization and issues, Milo is the one and only. In fact i would say that Colbert is doing more damage in that respect, and has a larger audience too. And yeah, he is "comedy" as well, cause it is all good fun until people start to die in droves :)
 
GoodEnoughForMe said:
Colbert doesn't go on his show and post pictures and names of transgender people and encourage his fans to attack them.
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He doesn't need to. He can do the same with the deplorables. Common thing is the divide and impera messed up media and circuses going.
The underlying issue, imo, is that such voices are crap, and it is dangerous that those are now the voices of the debate.
 
GoodEnoughForMe said:
Are you actually arguing that Colbert mocking public/political figures is the same as Milo identifying private citizens who are at risk of being murdered and telling his fanbase to harass them?
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If you aren't thinking this is what i am actually saying then why did you strawman it as such? I suppose there was some meaning lost somewhere, no?

Demonizing x cause they are on the other side etc, while overlooking y who is the same lowly clown causing much of the same problem, is not going to solve anything. Nor is canceling free speech going to help. Afaik it is legal to attack the uni for keeping people there as students when they haven't filled a proper application and/or are there under false pretenses. Not sure how this is the same as Milon himself doing anything illegal (violent) against them?
 
No, I think you're making a horrible false equivalency. I haven't watched Colbert's new show, but from my understanding of his previous show, what he did was rarely that mean spirited or vindictive. He was mostly there to poke and prod those in power. Milo, however, exists solely to make miserable the lives of vulnerable people.

Now, if you want to argue if Colbert's brand of snark is effective, then sure, go ahead. But to say that he is demonizing/slandering/dividing/etc. to the same extent that Milo is, is, well, ridiculous. Colbert is mainstream satire. Milo is rabid bullying.
 
Attempting to compare or contrast Colbert with Yiannopoulos misses the point that protesting Yiannopoulos did not require throwing Molotov cocktails at the police.
 
Milo didn't appear in a vacuum. He is taking advantage of the relative lack of analogous "right-wing" media warriors that don't come across as utter imbeciles :) Colbert, on his part, was (and is) doing a very bad service by analogously profiting off the enormous wave of polarization you have going.
Neither is about comedy.

And they have numerous co-warriors anyway. Trolling away, with no discussion or compromise or dialogue ever.
 
BvBPL said:
Attempting to compare or contrast Colbert with Yiannopoulos misses the point that protesting Yiannopoulos did not require throwing Molotov cocktails at the police.
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Well, the police choose not to let the protesters burn the troll himself, so the result makes a certain sense.
 
BvBPL said:
Attempting to compare or contrast Colbert with Yiannopoulos misses the point that protesting Yiannopoulos did not require throwing Molotov cocktails at the police.
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Well, I agree, throwing them at Milo himself would have been better.
 
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