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best aggresive leader

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Tronicoz, Apr 16, 2009.

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WICH ONE?

  1. Montezuma

    16 vote(s)
    12.6%
  2. Hammurabi

    10 vote(s)
    7.9%
  3. Boudica

    10 vote(s)
    7.9%
  4. Alexander the great!

    10 vote(s)
    7.9%
  5. Tokugawa aka "mr no trading"

    10 vote(s)
    7.9%
  6. Genghis khan

    8 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. Kublai Khan

    5 vote(s)
    3.9%
  8. Josef stalin

    2 vote(s)
    1.6%
  9. Ragnar lodbrok

    29 vote(s)
    22.8%
  10. Shaka!

    18 vote(s)
    14.2%
  11. Ghandi (xD omg he's so aggresive)

    9 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. RRRaskolnikov

    RRRaskolnikov Goldfish

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  2. shatter_crime

    shatter_crime Chieftain

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    Toku has the best combination (Agg/Pro) on late warfare.
    And Samurai is good, with Drill I & II promotions.

    But Rusty Edge's right. Any leader with Praets (and Agg) is the best.
     
  3. Corneh

    Corneh Warlord

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    Shaka is my prefered leader, only because his UU is like a mini org trait. Expansive (spelling?) for cheap granaries means whiping frenzy and agg for stronger units means hes best suitable for early rushes imho.
     
  4. shatter_crime

    shatter_crime Chieftain

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    Too bad Huayna Capac isn't Aggresive:( Quechua makes such a great early rush:)
     
  5. ParadigmShifter

    ParadigmShifter Random Nonsense Generator

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    Quechua get free combat I though. He is fin/agg in vanilla as well.
     
  6. Lincoln3457

    Lincoln3457 A Walrus

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    Dude, Gandi is SO nice in the game. That's why i walk all over him! :mischief: :lol:
     
  7. Drake007

    Drake007 Warlord

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    ragnar and shaka

    i think montezuma is underrated as well: nice UB and an early religion can be a powerful diplomatic tool early on (cough war bribes cough).
     
  8. Tronicoz

    Tronicoz vikingz

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    agree there, shaka and ragnar =D but i like to play monty most, dunni why
    i voted boudica love the imba war traits
     
  9. mike p

    mike p King

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    Shaka, easily.

    Expansive is a solid trait, the UB is excellent, and the UU is, if not game breaking, still tactically quite useful.

    Ragnar only has financial to compensate. Which is not nothing, but is overrated, because the benefit is more obviously visible than most traits. If it isn't a water heavy map, then Ragnar's got nothing on Shaka.
     
  10. Warmongerguy

    Warmongerguy Chieftain

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    Boudica, Agg and Cha give you the best experienced units= you win on open terrain in most cases which gives you even more XP. Cha also brings 2 more happy people.

    The Celtic UB and UU are not the best, but try free leaders with Boudica of the Inca for a Queshau Rush or Boudica of the Zulu or Roman.

    Boudica's flaw is economy, you need to play very aggressive and press techs from a defeated civ and use a lot of espionage to compensate.

    Don't build wonders, but see which Civ nearby has wonders interesting for you and conquer them.
     
  11. troytheface

    troytheface Deity

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    not even close. Ghengis for the unique unit.
     
  12. JonathanStrange

    JonathanStrange PrinceWithA1000Enemies

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    Alexander the Great, ftw.
     
  13. Antilogic

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    The OP specifically mentions no changes to the Civ. Unrestricted Leaders isn't checked!

    Alexander has all the advantages of the Philosophical trait as well as the Odeon UB, which is chock-full of goodness. Extra happiness, extra culture, and the ability to run extra artists, if you so desire. There's a strong economy there as well as the Aggressive trait.
     
  14. PreLynMax

    PreLynMax Your Lord and Master

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    Nothing can stop the raw power of Ganghis Khan's UU/UB combo.
     
  15. Antilogic

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    I never thought the Keshik was all that better than a base horse archer. It does get a first strike, but it doesn't have immunity to them, correct?

    The combination does have some punch, though, I'll grant you that.
     
  16. TheMeInTeam

    TheMeInTeam Top Logic

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    Flanking II grants 1st strike immunity, making this the only unit in the game that can ignore them and still use one. Keshiks are virtually guaranteed to do considerable damage to any contemporary defender, and with flanking II even longbows aren't too much.

    Keshiks benefit from the UB and the fact that they get 1 move cost on ALL terrain. They are a marked improvement on the horse archer, which is already an incredible unit.
     
  17. Fluxx

    Fluxx Mr. Almost There

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    My first satisfying Emperor win will be soon with Ghengis Khan.

    So i vote him :)

    Mass UU, Mass knights, now soon mass Cavalry for Domination Victory, or anything else I desire
     
  18. Soirana

    Soirana Emperor

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    Monty... if only he could be played without that shameful UU.
     
  19. Antilogic

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    So you have half your force with Flanking I/II and the other half with Combat I and either Combat II or Shock? I can see that working.
     
  20. zerocold

    zerocold Chieftain

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    Stalin

    For the early game, getting the pyramids, great wall and stonheage

    Then massing axemen to destroy your neighbour

    Then a nice period of peace, since the guy you conquered did not have any strong relations with another player

    More peace

    More peace, some wonders here and there

    Cossacks..yep lets start again the fun

    After another empire fell, you should have the most exensive empire, and the game is already won..or should be
     

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