Best leader for early conquest victory?

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I played Alexander properly for the first time yesterday and it was a stampede!

Those Phalanxs with all those extra HP (esp. if you chop a few quick barracks) is just impossible to not go out and kick ass.

I had secured victory by a few turns into the AD!
 
Have you tried the Incas? A lot of people like the quecha for a super-early rush, taking out one or more AIs (depending on difficulty level) with a unit you can build from the very start of the game. That isn't a conquest victory, but it sets you up for an early one.

Huyana Capac (spelling?) is also financial, which helps fund the wars.
 
I played Alexander properly for the first time yesterday and it was a stampede!

Those Phalanxs with all those extra HP (esp. if you chop a few quick barracks) is just impossible to not go out and kick ass.

I had secured victory by a few turns into the AD!

I think it helps if you let us know the game (vanilla, warlords, BTS), speed, dificulty, and more improtantly map size. Conquest on ahuge map with 11 Ais by early AD is impressive. On a smallmap, I guess it's pretty good.
 
Sounds like BTS to be, phalanxes get a free march promo in that don't they?

I've only got warlords and have only one conquest victory, Ramesses on a standard Terra map (Prince level) with 6 opponents. War Chariots are great, destroyed 4 civs before macemen.

Quecha are great for duel maps on higher levels though I hear. Perisa's UU is very good as well.
 
I had one conquest victory in Warlords with Washington. Marathon speed, huge continent map, prince level.
 
alexander, huyana capac, and anybody else that is aggressive and has a kick butt unit are good on my terms....
 
Persia is excellent for conquest victories. Cyrus gives you super-promoted Immortals to kick ass with, while Darius is Financial/Organised to keep your economy afloat. For conquest it's cool to have a bunch of Workers escorted by our Immortals, building roads as they move along to destroy other civilisations. Speeds things up a bit. :)

The March promotion for Phalanxes was a rumour, unfortunately. :wallbash:
 
I played Alexander properly for the first time yesterday and it was a stampede!

i am very much not typically a warmonger, and have to start out with a mantra "must kill early, do not go into standard make-nice and do the usual stuff" mode when i want to practice conquering. that being said, in warlords i can pound the AI as cyrus. i had to enact a "no playing cyrus in bash-heads mode" rule since he just makes it too easy, even for me. and immortals, OMG, too many advantages, they even get defensive bonuses. and they're pretty, which of course matters! shaka's impis love to dance, that's a big point in their favor.

ragnar on archi map is another that i finish off so early it's insane, given my lack of skill at the whole thing. double plus good, isabella was my neighbor, reachable by galley with the OB we had for a time, so i moved my axes to her island but outside her borders, then conquered the double holy/triple seafood city she'd made for me. all before anybody else had met us, so no "you declared war on our friend" penalties. that map was just ideal in so many ways.

i have this hangup about not wanting to play certain leaders since i like them as neighbors/allies/buddies. alex is one. he is my bestest pal, and if i'm him, he's not around to be my attack dog, which makes me sad. but his traits are good ones and i really ought to try him one of these days. maybe for my first unrestricted leaders game, since it's his traits i like, not his UB.

oh how i have always wanted a "random leaders but excluding X, Y, Z, and Cathy from the list" *giggle*. some are doable by cheating, i pick a different russian and cathy can't show up. but i just want that as an option for the days i'm reallllllllllly not in the mood to deal with her or monty or whoever.
 
Khublai Khan (Agg/Cre) of the Romans would be a great Conquest leader.

Creative is an excellent trait for early warmongers. Fewer hammers invested on monuments and barracks, melee units (generally the best in the early age) come with free combat, Praetorians available early and are dominant for eras.

Khublai Khan has great, great warmonger traits. Unfortunately he's saddled with a UU and UB I don't much like. Horse Archers are comparable to swordsmen in research and hammer cost, but take you down two non-crucial tech paths: Archery and Horseback Riding. You'll still need Bronzeworking and possibly ironworking to really get your war machine rolling, which makes your start even slower and its still easily countered by even a few spears.

Creative/Charismatic would be an even better trait combo IMO. I'd say Creative/Charismatic would be to warmongering what Industrious/Philosophical would be to building.
 
shaka's impis love to dance, that's a big point in their favor.

*Giggle*

Anyway, for an early rush, I prefer Inca - My last MP involved me taking Greek Capital guarded by a scout, DoWing Germany to take their city nr 3, make peace with them, Invade India (only capital, they had confu due to Oracle - religion for me! :goodjob:), Take Germany out once I hit swords, and then a fairly long fight with Rome compared to my tech+. The capital was guarded by 7 preas (2promos) and a spear, so I waasnt able tot ake it before cats and maces.
 
The best early Conquest leader is absolutley Brennus. Even if you can't get Gallic Warriors, you can still use his Charismatic stat to enhance all of your other units.
 
BOUDICA OF THE BEATSTICKS!

No, seriously, play as Boudica using any civ except her native one (sorry, just not a fan of the Celts) and you'll have a murder frenzy. I heard someone say that Boudica of Rome is considered cheating in a lot of multiplayer games. I only play single, so what do I know...
 
I thought that the Mongols were the best Civ for early conquest, but when I tried it , I found out that their UU is unsuitable for that. I was well in the medieval era when I won (small pangea map, 4 AIs)
 
Any leader that allows you to keep up infrastructure and keep costs down (and build the ecnomy) while adding to the was effort are the ones you want.

This is why i favor washington but other good ones

Hammarabi because he's agressive and organized.
Ragnar because he's financial and agressive
Hannibal, Financial and charismatic

Both Egyptians and Roman work well because of the powerful early UUs.

Asoka is a wildcard, he can research BW right off the bat and his traits can be leveraged very well to warfre, he just has to get the well promoted units the old fashioned way:backstab:
 
Play a Terra Map and conquer everyone before they reach astronomy. Inca's of course are the best for this.
 
Play a Terra Map and conquer everyone before they reach astronomy. Inca's of course are the best for this.

I have never been able to do jack with Inca. Is the speed an issue? I usually play standard. Yeah maybe, MAYBE I can catch a city that doesn't have a bunch of fortified warriors in it and exercise my strengths. But in about 30 seconds I'm losing to warriors then losing to axemen.

Maybe my timing is off.
 
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