Best RTS ever!!

[steviejay]

http://www.gamespy.com/top10/february04/rts/

just finished reading the "Top ten RTS games of all time". I agree with a few in there (RoN, AoE etc) but the no1 I was quite confused about.

Many a year ago when I was screaming at my old Cyrix-powered computer to play the computer games I wanted, I knew that for some reason, I had a safe haven in the form of the game, "Total Annihilation". despite not being able to run other games like Carmageddon, TA always seemed to work with me (even trying to play C&C made my computer sound like it was close to having a stroke) I did love that game and I played it profusely......... but do I consider it to be the Best RTS game EVER?

hmmmm........... no, sorry, not really. I did love it, but there are more games that I would have moved up. In my personal opinion C&C should have at least been IN the top ten, and C&C: Red Alert should have been no 1, and Dune II should have gotten more than a "honourable mention". I am proud to say I came close to failing my standard grades due to C&C and have no regrets!!

But thats just my opinion........... whats your favourite RTS game of all time...... or do you hate them all alltogether??

(I was going to put this in Off-Topic but I couldn't decide if it was better in here or not, so I'll just put it in here)

 

[Archer 007]

Actully, this should be in All Other Games.

 

[steviejay]

DOH!!! I forgot about that one. Sorry.

erm...... I hate to ask........ but could a Moderator maybe move this........ please

 

[Wolfe Tone]

Personally, I hated Total Anhillation. My favourite has to be Red Alert 2. I just loved those deployed GI. I used to wipe out whole bases with a division of them.

 

[Archer 007]

Empire Earth was my faviote of the group.

 

[ainwood]

Originally posted by steviejay
DOH!!! I forgot about that one. Sorry.

erm...... I hate to ask........ but could a Moderator maybe move this........ please

Well, it isn't my domain, but seeing as I'm replying...

My favourite would have to be Dune II, and I still play the updated clone Dune 2000. The only thing it lacks is a decent AI that doesn't just dribble a unit or two at you but attacks the weak points in strength. But easily the most addictive IMHO.

 

[Thrawn]

Bit hard to say really. I've never really played TA, and the first C&C game was the first rts game I played. Except maybe for Starcraft, I can't think of any other rts game I've enjoyed as much.

 

[thestonesfan]

Red Alert 2, hands down. RTS perfected. It really couldn't get any better. Starcraft, while a great game, just doesn't compare.

 

[sourboy]

Based on what I have played:

Best:
StarCraft - the most balanced game, modern, still re-playable (hey, it's been out for like 8 years now.)

Notables:
WarCraft II (I'm biased cuz this one started it all for me)
Age Of Empires II
Command & Conquer/Red Alert
Dark Reign

Want my money back:
WarCraft III
Total (waste of time) - I got this one out of a $5 bin, and I want my money back.

 

[Bart2k4]

I agree with Total Annihilation being number one. But Empire earth should of been number two!! Arghhh

It’s quite funny, but when I was very little, the very first computer game I have ever played was Dune II! I loved it; I am very honoured that they brought mention to it.

 

[Achinz]

The introductory piece at the site highlighted the difficulties inherent in this sort of exercise with such widely varied criteria.

I would vote for the inclusion of Europa Universalis II based on historical accuracy, replayability and longterm strategic challenges.

 

[Lifeblood]

Medieval Total War should have been numero uno. And yes, Total Annihilation deserved, if not the top spot, then atleast number 2. The C&C series would be third if only for the innovation factor. Westwood's contribution to the RTS gaming legacy is second only to Blizzard's Warcraft series.

 

[The Person]

I've never played TA, so I'm not the right to judge, but SC really is worth the first place. I've spent hours and hours playing and tweaking and playing it back in the days that was the best my computer could handle. And when WCIII is lower than SC.
That's the best strategy of my choice:
- Civ(2)
- Starcraft

 

[thestonesfan]

I have yet to play Medieval: Total War. But I plan to.

 

[Thrawn]

I've only played the demo, but it was damn cool watching all these horseman come over the hill and seeing how outnumbered I was.

 

[CruddyLeper]

I still quite like M1 Tank Platoon 2. Classic.

 

[puglover]

RoN could kick the butt of any of those other games! The blend of the two best games in history was brilliant!

 

[Darth_Pugwash]

Ah, Total Annihilation, I have some fond memory's of that golden oldie TA was a damn fine game, not sure if I would call it the best ever though.

Can't really comment on much else, TA, Cossacks, AoE and Red Alert 2 are the only rts games I've ever really played, all good games, but TA was miles ahead of em.

Cossacks felt like a napoleonic TA to me, which is no bad thing the way I see it.

I particularly liked the tongue in cheek b-movieness of RA2, though unfortunatley the tank rush was still alive and well in the series. Though the Yuris Revenge expansion curbed that somewhat it, imho, created an even bigger problem with those damn evil mind control thingys. That was all fine and dandy in single player, but in multiplayer a turtling yuri player was unstoppable.

But yeah, TA is my fave rts, but I get the feeling its not quite the best, even more so these days's given its age.

 

[Celeborn]

I love TA and still play it...

But I can not say what RTS rank as numer 1 for me, I like to many of them... RA2, WC3, RoN, SC, etc, etc...

It just too hard!!!

 

[Esuh]

Originally posted by Lifeblood
Medieval Total War should have been numero uno.

The reason it was not higher up on their list was the fact that the RTS part of it is not too great, while the turn-based is great when combined with the RTS.

Otherwise I totally agree with TA being best. It is actually much more balanced than Starcraft, since (as they mention in the article) each unit is balanced individually , making the game itself completely balanced, even though it has 200+ units, which also makes it strategically and tactically interesting. How many other games have you snuck a group of varied artillery to the back of your enemies base while you have them covered with radar jammer vehicles?
Only down-side is that there is not too much difference between arm and core, but there is a difference, as any veteran can tell you.

I'm a core man myself, but not in rush games.