salty mud
Deity
Fast Workers are good. It's not having to wait to get some work done! 
Best UU?
- Thread starter FoxTrot12
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I'd say that there's no single best UU. They all (yes, ALL) have their uses. Even the Jaguar - resourceless is just invaluable sometimes, so Atzecs can simply beeline for IW without worries and start whipping the Jags whether they have iron or not, or whether the iron takes long to connect or not.
FoxTrot12
Chieftain
Why does everyone else hate Jags? They are actually really good if used correctly.
Point13
Like a ton of bricks!
I personally really like the Keshik, they let you rape and pillage without contest since nobody can catch them when they want to run away. Plus that first strike sure is nice against ground units.
Give 'em mobility and flanking.... ahhhhhh
Give 'em mobility and flanking.... ahhhhhh
Thyrwyn
Guardian at the Gate
Gallic Warrior's are great in the new patch: They are the same as Swordsmen except they start with Guerilla I and can be built with either Iron or Copper. Even if you don't care about the free promo, the resource issue is huge!
SkippyT
Who?
BERSERKERS 
zooropa86
Chieftain
- Joined
- May 5, 2006
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i actually used to hate on the fast workers till i finally played a game with them. that said, i have yet to use redcoats and cossacks. i personally love the cho-ko-nu because i like playing qin and find them unstoppable. individually theyre not all that, but once u suicide one or two, you wont have ANY losses.
Tulx
Impossible Creature
1)Cossacks-I dont have warlords so I dont have any comments is it vanilla or not
2)Immortals because they look so cool
2)Immortals because they look so cool
FoxTrot12
Chieftain
Immortals are better than just looking cool. They're fast, cheap to build, and if you get horses early, there isn't much in their way. And they don't need a bunch of fancy techs.
salty mud
Deity
I find Navy SEALs practically useless. What is the point in coming so late? Although they are cool to play with.
Wow, I didn't think of that. I thought they were useless (with only a weak promotion that seems to be of limited use for a swordsman), but I never saw that they didn't require iron. I guess that makes them slightly better, yeah.
Anyway, I feel that Janissaries are a bit overpowered (or rather, the other UU's are perhaps not overpowered enough?
)Psyringe
Scout
Wow, I didn't think of that. I thought they were useless (with only a weak promotion that seems to be of limited use for a swordsman), but I never saw that they didn't require iron. I guess that makes them slightly better, yeah.
I actually had a blast playing as Brennus in my current game ... had a rather unlucky starting position with little space, Tokugawa choking me, and Monty declaring war as soon as he could. Monty's empire had many hills, and most of his cities were placed on hills. Having swordsman-like attackers with (sfter promotions) double movement on hills in the enemy's empire, hill defense, and hill attack bonus made this effort much easier.
I agree, however, that the usage of this promotion is limited to special situation. It's also quite dumb that the UU and the UB have the same effect, which doesn't stack.
Anyway, I feel that Janissaries are a bit overpowered (or rather, the other UU's are perhaps not overpowered enough?
Musketmen tend to get bsolete real fast in my games, I usually get grenadiers soon after. In my last game as Mehmed, I built about 3 Janissaries in total. Might be due to my playing style though. Beelining to Janissaries instead might be an interesting tactic when playing Mehmed ...
Quagga
Former Dictator
I think to make the Janissaries work, you must get them as early as possible. Their strengths are against the previous era of weaponry (longbows, maces and knights).
I used to think Quechas were the best unit followed by Praetorians and redcoats. However I just found out today the Conquistadors get defensive bonuses in cities and defensive terrain. Put that in with their 50% bonus against melee units and they are practically impossible to stop!
The only unit that can beat them is a war elephant and that only applies when the elephant can catch the conquistadors and also only when you catch them in open terrain and they have no muskets or pikemen protecting them.
The only unit that can beat them is a war elephant and that only applies when the elephant can catch the conquistadors and also only when you catch them in open terrain and they have no muskets or pikemen protecting them.
CantaloupeKing
Chieftain
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My god, you guys hate my Jaguars....
They're great for when you have sloppy land(lots of jungle) and not enough workers, especially when someone's advancing on you in an early war. Suddenly you love that jungle, even though the Jags are slightly weaker than the average swordsman and that jungle deprives you of food. Plus if you've got a barracks, you can give them woodsman bonus and then they're really good border patrol for a while!
Samurais are not so loved by many other people, but I like them because they get first strikes and look cooler than those dorky macemen. HAHA!
-The King
They're great for when you have sloppy land(lots of jungle) and not enough workers, especially when someone's advancing on you in an early war. Suddenly you love that jungle, even though the Jags are slightly weaker than the average swordsman and that jungle deprives you of food. Plus if you've got a barracks, you can give them woodsman bonus and then they're really good border patrol for a while!
Samurais are not so loved by many other people, but I like them because they get first strikes and look cooler than those dorky macemen. HAHA!
-The King
siggboy
Monarch/Epic
Yeah, they are completely underrated. Unfortunately they require Iron and Horses, which can be critical if you try to get them early on (after your first conquest you usually have both resources).
In the defense Elephants work well in any case. Just that the AI hardly ever builds Elephants for defense (if they even have Ivory).
I have to make sure to kick some butt using these guys when I play Spain next time.
--Sigi
siggboy
Monarch/Epic
Interesting. I've always liked the macemen and the cool rattling sound they make when fighting. It looks really mean how they hack their opponents with the mace. The Samurai look very nice, too, of course (especially when they dieSamurais are not so loved by many other people, but I like them because they get first strikes and look cooler than those dorky macemen. HAHA!
-The King
.--Sigi
