Beta HOF Rules/FAQ

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While we're doing all the polls can we get one for barbarians on or off?
 
Shillen said:
While we're doing all the polls can we get one for barbarians on or off?
You're welcome to make one on your own.;) :)
 
Shillen said:
While we're doing all the polls can we get one for barbarians on or off?


Bah! I always have barbarians on, on a standard map there are 4 different groups of them, and it goes up with map size.


My point is subtle.
 
As promised at the start of the previous update the rules have now been changed to no longer allow games to be played in 1.09. Only games started and played through to completion on 1.52 will be accepted.
 
Is the perpetual anarchy bug allowed in hall of fame? Cos both the top games are using it.
 
It's allowed for the beta hall of fame. It hasn't been ruled on for the permanent one yet. But there is a thread about it here.
 
As Shillen said, it's allowed in the beta HOF. During the length of the beta HOF we will try to avoid making decisions about exploits, instead allowing you to find them and report them and hopefully to get them fixed before we finish the beta period.
 
I read through the HOF rules, loaded the HOF mod, and started a new game. After finishing, I found the 4000bc checker and it says my map is 1.52 unrecognized install? What does that mean?
 
Xevious said:
I read through the HOF rules, loaded the HOF mod, and started a new game. After finishing, I found the 4000bc checker and it says my map is 1.52 unrecognized install? What does that mean?
You may have altered files in your assets folder. Download the attached assests checker Dianthus built. It may give you some immediated feedback. In any case, save the results and e-mail it to hof@civfanatics.net so he can take a look at it.

edit: fixed incorrect e-mail address.
 

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If that's the same checker being used for GOTM, I've already run it, and apparently I have a different sort order than the norm. I can't load the password protected GOTM files either. So I guess until that issue is straightened out I can't play the HOF?
 
Xevious said:
If that's the same checker being used for GOTM
It's a different one.



Xevious said:
I've already run it, and apparently I have a different sort order than the norm.
Have you got an NTFS partition you can install Civ4 to?



Xevious said:
I can't load the password protected GOTM files either. So I guess until that issue is straightened out I can't play the HOF?
Send us the results and submit one game and we'll take a look.
 
Asset check results sent to hof@civfanatics.com. Game uploaded, entry #515. I don't have time now, but I may try creating an NTFS partition tonight and see if that fixes anything. So is that the theory right now? That those of us with FAT32 installs are having problems?
 
Xevious said:
Asset check results sent to hof@civfanatics.com. Game uploaded, entry #515. I don't have time now, but I may try creating an NTFS partition tonight and see if that fixes anything. So is that the theory right now? That those of us with FAT32 installs are having problems?
I think it has something to do with different default sort order of the files.

Rather than creating a new partition you can simplily convert your File System to NTFS. I have done this several times over the years on my work PCs when running either Windows 2000 or Windows XP. In the case of FAT file systems, I actually gained free space. (NTFS has smaller page sizes on disk so tiny files waste less space.) I am not sure about FAT32 but you shouldn't lose any. I do know that it is very safe as it won't execute if you don't have enough free space. It is no worse than doing a defragmentation.

From Windows XP help:
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[B]To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt[/B]
1.  Open the [U]Command Prompt[/U] window.
2.  In the command prompt window, type 
    [B]convert[/B] [I]drive_letter:[/I] [B]/fs:ntfs[/B]

For example, typing[B] convert D: /fs:ntfs[/B] would format drive D: with 
the ntfs format.

[B]Notes[/B]

To open a command prompt, click [B]Start[/B], point to [B]Programs[/B], 
point to [B]Accessories[/B], and then click [B]Command Prompt[/B]. 

You can convert [U]FAT[/U] or [U]FAT32[/U] volumes to [U]NTFS[/U] with
this command.
 
I think the reason I left it as FAT32 is I was still dualbooting with Windows ME, but haven't used ME in ages. Probably ought to get rid of that. I might try converting and see what happens.

Actually, after reading the help file for the convert option, I'm not sure it will help on the boot partition. I'm due for a clean install of XP soon anyway, so for now I might just try the separate NT partition and see what happens.
 
Ok, I converted an empty test partion from FAT32 to NTFS, uninstalled Civ4, installed it to the NTFS partition, patched it and installed the HOF mod. Started it up, saved a start file and ran it through the checker and it passed! I also am now able to load the password protected GOTM2 file.

My main windows install is still on FAT32 and my "My Documents" is also on a different FAT32 partition.
 
Xevious said:
Ok, I converted an empty test partion from FAT32 to NTFS, uninstalled Civ4, installed it to the NTFS partition, patched it and installed the HOF mod. Started it up, saved a start file and ran it through the checker and it passed! I also am now able to load the password protected GOTM2 file.

My main windows install is still on FAT32 and my "My Documents" is also on a different FAT32 partition.
Alright. :goodjob:

With no cheat mode checked it only uses files in the install directory. I think someone posted that the sort issue will be fixed in the next patch.
 
I understand the requirement for a limit of 2 entries for any player on any table but have a question about my third entry in the Settler Duel Domination tables. My first two entries were for quick finishes while the third was for high score. Are the quick finish and high score tables actually seperate so I could have as many as 2 entries on each table? The faster the finish the lower the score in these games so the highest score game wouldn't be listed in the fastest finishes as it would be the third entry. At the same time the fastest finish wouldn't be listed in the highest score table as it would be the third entry. Of coures that presumes that all of these games actually in the top 10 in each catagory which may not be the case at the next update.
 
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