Beyond, Beyond the sword

[AdamCrock]

Well I didn't really had issues with 98 either but I only got SE back in the day Never really got the chance to test Win 8 though so I really cant say Vista was pain in the "back" for me because it literally "consumed" most of my machine CPU cycles and memory just to run itself and to make everything worse certain Mr. Billy G figured it would be hilarious to screw up the control panel and mix everything up there Well I'd say that could be the analogy to Civ IV -> Civ V transition Let's hope that Civ 6 will turn out to be "better Windows" this time As for the Not-Doors developers let's just say that consumer satisfaction is probably the least of their worries and let's leave it at that

 

[vincentz]

One thing we can be happy about civ 5:
It was a commercial succes, so a VI is a certainty.

Another thing is, that I do believe that Firaxis did get the hint, that the "hardcore" fanbase wasnt all happy about some of the directions it took, so I foresee a more complex, better thought out, improved AI, slick, functioning UI on a butter oiled beast of an engine, that can run smoothly on even an old XP system.



Please dont wake me up. Im having such nice dreamzzzzzz

 

[Drakarska]

One thing we can be happy about civ 5:
It was a commercial succes, so a VI is a certainty.

Another thing is, that I do believe that Firaxis did get the hint, that the "hardcore" fanbase wasnt all happy about some of the directions it took, so I foresee a more complex, better thought out, improved AI, slick, functioning UI on a butter oiled beast of an engine, that can run smoothly on even an old XP system.



Please dont wake me up. Im having such nice dreamzzzzzz

You forgot the part where even TMIT would grudgenly agree that VI got "almost" everything right .

 

[Lemon Merchant]

One thing we can be happy about civ 5:
It was a commercial succes, so a VI is a certainty.

Yes, but so are death and taxes, and neither of those is any good.

 

[plasmacannon]

Yes, but so are death and taxes, and neither of those is any good.

And taxes are more painful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvqYP7eEAAs

 

[Haig]

I don't know if you follow what's going on with Civ V, but there will be a 2nd Expansion in July, first one already gave the game big features and overhauls, and the 2nd one Brave New World looks simply amazing.

From what we know of the new stuff, the trade route system is going to be amazing and most interesting made compared to rest of the series. The World Congress and ideologies seem very cool too.

The designers' purpose for the 2nd expansion was to make the end game really fun. I honestly think that in all versios, the last couple of eras are dull and clumsy.
BTS tried to improve it with corporations and espionage, but both of them were kind of tedious systems and no fun, in my opinion.

I think people should give V a chance even if they were disappointed when it was first released. Like I was too!

 

[plasmacannon]

Maybe some will Haig, but for me, unless they increased the 1up tile up to something like 5-10 or 1 of each type, then I'm not interested. Also, I like my LAN for Civ4, Starcraft1 and Empire Earth. I don't have nor want a steam account to play games. I prefer to play ofline. I didn't purchase Starcraft2 either for this same reason. The PC game section is getting smaller every year in the stores, some don't sell them at all anymore.
The manufacturers can either make what we want, or we will continue to lose interest. I am already continually disappointed that no one can remake a simple MOO2 game from back in 1992with its important features of custom race design, custom ship design and tactical ship combat and just improve the graphics and slightly increase everything else.

 

[Funky]

I don't know if you follow what's going on with Civ V, but there will be a 2nd Expansion in July, first one already gave the game big features and overhauls, and the 2nd one Brave New World looks simply amazing.

(..)

I think people should give V a chance even if they were disappointed when it was first released. Like I was too!

It's sad and funny at the same time that the designers call their expansion Brave New World, which should make their design philosphy obvious to even the biggest Civ 5 fans, and people still don't get it. Civ 5 is an illusion of a Civ game, like the world in Huxley's book. The expansions they bring out are the soma to placate the masses. And the masses, unaware of the illusion they live in, long for more soma, wanting to consume it no matter in what form and with what features it is thrown at them, and no matter how clumsy and awkward the whole game is.

 

[AdamCrock]

Maybe some will Haig, but for me, unless they increased the 1up tile up to something like 5-10 or 1 of each type, then I'm not interested. Also, I like my LAN for Civ4, Starcraft1 and Empire Earth. I don't have nor want a steam account to play games. I prefer to play ofline. I didn't purchase Starcraft2 either for this same reason. The PC game section is getting smaller every year in the stores, some don't sell them at all anymore.
The manufacturers can either make what we want, or we will continue to lose interest. I am already continually disappointed that no one can remake a simple MOO2 game from back in 1992with its important features of custom race design, custom ship design and tactical ship combat and just improve the graphics and slightly increase everything else.

Sad but true. I think that PC games (turn-based strategy genre especially) will go into decline after console "boom" - as strange as it may sound I think that masses prefer "easy entertainment" - they dont want to think, they dont want to perform "complicated install stuff" , they just want to plug the disc in, push some buttons, kill the "bad guys", watch some cool graphics and throw it away like yesterdays news. As for the steam (super-duper-half-living-team? ) I don't even bother to comment - it is simply player-unfriendly design with "$" as it's main idea - I'm not here to criticise either - it has pros, it has cons and it is only my personal view anyway but I don't like it.
I do remember Master of Orion 2 however ! ^^ Believe it or not it still got it's active multiplayer community (I can't remember the site adress now though )! I was playing MP withs some guys 1 year ago so You can give it a shot if You want , for the good 'ol times sake btw. MOO2 was awesome - the best part was designing Your own ships - it was simply epic stuff - especially in MP

 

[lymond]

I think that PC games (turn-based strategy genre especially) went into decline after console "boom"

correction

 

[AdamCrock]

correction

awwwww ....

 

[plasmacannon]

...
I do remember Master of Orion 2 however ! ^^ Believe it or not it still got it's active multiplayer community (I can't remember the site adress now though )! I was playing MP withs some guys 1 year ago so You can give it a shot if You want , for the good 'ol times sake btw. MOO2 was awesome - the best part was designing Your own ships - it was simply epic stuff - especially in MP

http://www.spheriumnorth.com/orion-forum/nfphpbb/index.php
was the site I visited most. I am on there as "Time". I just checked, I have the 5th most number of posts on there and I've been off for about a year. I'd really like to see a 64-bit version of some of these classic games to run on a Win 7 system and not just the few that are out there.

 

[Lemon Merchant]

And taxes are more painful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvqYP7eEAAs

Brilliant link.

 

[plasmacannon]

Brilliant link.

I've become a big fan of Doctor Who is the past couple of years. I've watched every episode offered on NetFlix and a few that are not.
That clip is from the episode called "The Sunmakers" starring, of course the 4th Doctor, the famous Tom Baker.
If you haven't seen it, I'd recommend it to anyone. It is full of puns about taxes in a way to be balanced towards multiple political parties, all done in a sci-fi manner.

 

[noto2]

I won't be trying out Civ 5 because I'm not going to buy a new computer to play it. Dota 2 is an action game and has far more complex graphics than Civ, and dota2 runs perfectly well on my computer at maxed settings. I can even play GTA4 at high settings on my computer, and GTA4 looks amazing. But Civ 5, a freaking turn based strategy game, runs like molasses. No thanks.

 

[Lemon Merchant]

I've become a big fan of Doctor Who is the past couple of years. I've watched every episode offered on NetFlix and a few that are not.
That clip is from the episode called "The Sunmakers" starring, of course the 4th Doctor, the famous Tom Baker.
If you haven't seen it, I'd recommend it to anyone. It is full of puns about taxes in a way to be balanced towards multiple political parties, all done in a sci-fi manner.

I've never really gotten into Doctor Who. If it's on Netflix in Canada (not freaking likely ), perhaps I'll have a look. Who knows, maybe I'll like it better now that I'm older than the last time that I tried to watch it.

 

[stoferb]

I agree with Noto2. I'm not going to buy a new computer to play civ5, nor will I buy a new computer to be able to play civ VI since it's obvious that firaxis has never been able to design any kind of efficient graphics engine ever and likely won't learn how to do so for civ VI either.

 

[rah]

The timing for me always seems to work out.
I bought a new machine for IV and a new machine for V. If they take a few more years for VI to come out, the time should be about right.

 

[Lemon Merchant]

The timing for me always seems to work out.
I bought a new machine for IV and a new machine for V. If they take a few more years for VI to come out, the time should be about right.

I usually have a new machine, but then I'm sort of hooked on overclocking...

and sometimes it just doesn't work out right so it's off to the computer shops.

I'll bet that whatever we all have when VI comes out will barely run it, just like V.

 

[noto2]

but why does Civ 5 require more resources than GTA4??? That's just ridiculous. I don't have a gaming computer by any means, it's a fairly modest machine, and yet I can still run many beautiful games on it. I've played shooters on it many times, and yet Civ 5 is too much. What is with that