Don't tempt meI think green is good as it is.
imo on this map, food>>hammers by a margin even in late game.
I fear this map will lead itself to Rifling and drafting.(or even Nukes
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Draftles does look like the way to take over the Old World 
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Draftles does look like the way to take over the Old World 
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
Ok, I am sold on the Green spot. Thanks for elaborating, guys.
I am also in favour of writing next. I think we should also self-tech IW and Alpha. Let's steal the other stuff.
I am also in favour of writing next. I think we should also self-tech IW and Alpha. Let's steal the other stuff.
Hum that might actually be good. 1 problem: no metal. It's good because we can settle yellow dot and capture green dot off the barbs later (though probably have to resettle). 2 options: start building chariots as soon as horses are hooked up or switch tech to IW (I think I repeat myself, but I love binary research..Okay guys, we have a problem sorta.
oh and re draftles, look at all the food on this map! What better way is there than drafting?
) and get a few vultures. How long do we have to IW?
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
Do we have Pottery already? If we do, I think spamming Cottages and getting to IW now should be a priority. I am ok with building a couple chariots for scouting and MP, but I don't want to build a lot of them as Alex's UU is an axe without the weakness against chariots. Our UU is a much better hard-counter to his and will certainly be more cost-effective in taking that barb-city. It should also mean we can attack when the barb city is size 2 and save a settler's cost.
Sounds good, smilingrogue. We have plenty of riverside grass to cottage up, let's do this. Eridu can't be cottaged for the lack of food. Not sure about Kish; I don't like cottagespam so I wouldn't put cottages there.
If we go full-steam towards IW we won't need to build chariots. We can use warriors for MP, they're cheaper.
If we go full-steam towards IW we won't need to build chariots. We can use warriors for MP, they're cheaper.
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
I never spam cottages outside of capital, either. When I said spam cottages, I meant in the riverside tiles we cleared for our cap. But if we want to cottage more, I am ok with that. Here's to hoping that Plains hill which started un-forested in our cap's BFC is Iron and not Uranium or something.
Since we are discussing city placement, I was wondering what the best way to get spies is? In my experience, they drop like flies while on missions or even just walking to a target tile. Should we plan for a city that will exclusively build spies or will working them into regular build order be enough?
Here's to hoping that Plains hill which started un-forested in our cap's BFC is Iron and not Uranium or something. Since we are discussing city placement, I was wondering what the best way to get spies is? In my experience, they drop like flies while on missions or even just walking to a target tile. Should we plan for a city that will exclusively build spies or will working them into regular build order be enough?
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
@ Revent
Let's hope we have metal somewhere! If we don't, I guess we have to use Horse Archers and hope for the best. We may be able to trade for metal from Asoka if he has two copies but it will cost an arm and a leg.
Let's hope we have metal somewhere! If we don't, I guess we have to use Horse Archers and hope for the best. We may be able to trade for metal from Asoka if he has two copies but it will cost an arm and a leg.
This game is getting a bit worrying
Sorry, for some reason, every time I press PrntScrn, it says screenshot failed.
Turn 71: We see Monty's workboat. He founded Buddhism which has spread to Alex and they have both converted. Diplo will be tricky I think on this one in the beginning.
Monty ALREADY has Alpha AND IW. Means he is not alone and must have some strong techers near him! Darius maybe? He does prioritise Alpha after all in a lot of games.
Play on?
Sorry, for some reason, every time I press PrntScrn, it says screenshot failed.
Turn 71: We see Monty's workboat. He founded Buddhism which has spread to Alex and they have both converted. Diplo will be tricky I think on this one in the beginning.
Monty ALREADY has Alpha AND IW. Means he is not alone and must have some strong techers near him! Darius maybe? He does prioritise Alpha after all in a lot of games.
Play on?
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
@ Revent
Why do you think Monty has a strong techer near him? Would Monty have traded IW for Alpha if he has Darius near him?
Why do you think Monty has a strong techer near him? Would Monty have traded IW for Alpha if he has Darius near him?
I think it's a bit early for both Alpha AND IW considering our guys down here don't even have writing
Anyway, I wanted to post to confirm if everything is fine/any change of plans. Whether or not OB with Monty, any trades or anything...etc...
Anyway, I wanted to post to confirm if everything is fine/any change of plans. Whether or not OB with Monty, any trades or anything...etc...
Have you been playing in Window Mode?Revent said:
No clue how he got that advanced so early.
Sure. But first, PLEASE explain the MM in Uruk and Kish
I see that one of the grass mines just finished, but why have 2 citizens instead of forested tiles or the cottage?!? Also, in Kish, why not work the corn??
We have 4 workers. All 4 are within Uruk's BFC. Not good. Why isn't Kish connected to Uruk? Would only require 2 roaded tiles (and hook up horses).
The scouting warrior should heal (1t) before moving on.
What are your plans in the next few turns? Especially RE builds and worker movement.
The situation with monty is unusual but too early to tell whether we're really in trouble. Too bad he and his buddy Alex have high warmonger respect. Alex will likely come for us or Asoka. Arguments to attack us: borders. Arguments to attack Asoka: religion. Well, I'm not too fond of those odds, considering how important the borders part is (and how little alex cares about religion). We should make sure we get buddhism quickly (read: coastal city, as alex hardly will send any missionaries).
The fact that Monty is advanced can be due to a massive gold-in-bfc capital. It'll be tricky dealing with him. Probably we'll have to cut him down a bit mid-game, before he starts vasalling everyone on the map.
Oh I was having a look around at the micro and stuff but forgot to adjust it before uploading the save. :$
As for city plans:
Uruk: Settler->Worker->Worker->Settler (maybe slip in a barracks)
Kish: Granary->Warrior
Eridu: Granry->Barracks
Yeah, that could also be it! It could be he got Alpha and traded for IW or vice versa.
As for city plans:
Uruk: Settler->Worker->Worker->Settler (maybe slip in a barracks)
Kish: Granary->Warrior
Eridu: Granry->Barracks
Yeah, that could also be it!
It could be he got Alpha and traded for IW or vice versa.
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
I think you should play until you have settled the yellow spot. We should probably switch into Slavery after this settler is done.
Well it does look like it was like that for more than the 1 turn. I check every city every turn so that was quite an unfamiliar sight! I wasn'tRevent said:
you, just wanted to know what was going on.Uruk, with access to gold, should be grown sometime soon after the next settler completes. We could use warriors for MP IIRC.
Eridu could be used to build workers when at size 3. Rax aren't necessary there but a good item for when growing.
Smilingrogue said:
@Revent: About the "Screenshot failed"-messages: I would love to play SGs in window mode to write the report while playing but I always get that message while in window mode. There actually is a screenshot, just not in the ss-folder but in the clipboard (which you'd need to save manually).
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