Beyond The Sword
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IHT (89)
Switch to fishing (still at 0%) and whip Uruk since it's the last turn to do a 2popwhip. Gift pigs to alex
1 (90)
Asoka asks us to convert to confucianism. Nice try to sabotage our war prepareations, buddy
3 (92)
After 2t of 100%, Fishing > Mysticism. Lagash whips its granary > WB.
5 (94)
Settle our first GSpy.
D)
8 (97)
Myst > Medi. Meet Charles De Gaulle (WB on the south coast).
9 (98)
2popwhip library in lagash.
10 (99)
Asoka wants us to piss off Monty (cancel deals). Yeah, right, ask us for a favour today and attack us tomorrow
Chop @ Kish into library.
11 (100)
2popwhip worker @ Kish (would lose hammers this turn. ASOKA FINALLY SHOWS UP, I move the vults into position
12 (101)
Asoka retreats. Damn
Spot this. Damn
14 (103)
Monty asks us to cancel deals with Asoka. I agree. Next time we'll enter his borders will be without OB anyway
Asoka finishes Alpha. Not nearly as advanced as Monty. I'm getting tired of waiting for Asoka to attack...
15 (104)
Notice that I chose poly to research instead of medi, sorry for that Anyway, it is done now, PH next. ASOKA MOVES HIS WHOLE STACK and moves towards kish 5 vults are OTW to his northern city patali.
16 (105)
Finally, he DOWs Lose a worker IBT but we have plenty anyway...
17 (106)
Up north:
[Apparently, the next 2 s/s didn't work. One is a pic of the battle report]
Only lose 1 vult, bit lucky to capture it in 1t Patali has a "lighthouse"-thingy, whatever that is
Meanwhile, down south: The coward turns his stack back. Counterattack time!!
[Another lost battle report. Something like 7 kills vs 2 or 3 lost]
More losse, more kills. Deeecent
18 (107)
PH > Sailing. Zigs started everywhere except Uruk, which is about to grow. Switched to settler.
20 (109)
Damn, Alex gets the barb city. He's been sending tons of swords up there. I rushed 2 vults there but couldn't take the gamble to attack before alex
Another 50-50 battle won and one with even slightly lower odds and vijay is ours
These heroic acts spawn a GG.
Hit [Enter].
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I (finally!) stop here Looks like I got a bit carried away, but I don't think longer TS are bad, keeps the game moving.
More notes:
- Traded with monty and (just last turn) got wine so +1. Uruk should spend 1t on ziig or vult to grow, then back to settler, then finish the other 2 builds.
- Units unmoved. I ended the last turn to see whether Asoka would talk now (he doesn't). Thankfully he teched alpha so we'll be able to get techs off him once he talks. Is it possible he doesn't talk because I cancelled deals with him? I only just realized now that this might be the case...
- I think we should clean out the remaining units here and there, Asoka tried to recapture patali and killed a vult and lost a spearman. After those few remaining units we could heal and/or dogpile Delhi until we get peace.
- The warrior that was fortified in the jungle for no reason mapped out Alex' land. He has quite a lot but will take forever to develop.
- Research set to alpha. As soon as we have the cash we should go fullsteam so we get our spies out before Asoka is completely finished... remember we still focus EPs on him.
- I'd say we settle the GG in Uruk.
- We'll get a GS (likely) soon. I'd say we keep him until we tech medi and steal col to bulb philo. I was running scientists in Uruk to control growth, we'll soon get the spy slot as well.
- Vijay has a shrine for 9gpt atm.
- Zigs should be 2popwhipped. I set reminders for the last turn when they are 2popwhips (to keep working max tiles for as long as possible and regrow faster).
- Where do you want to settle? I'd go somewhere up north on the coast. Ur can build WBs for the new city to develop quickly.
- Getting sailing meant that we no longer have active TRs with Alex but with Monty (more commerce per TR).
- The tile improvements around vijay make my eyes hurt
Switch to fishing (still at 0%) and whip Uruk since it's the last turn to do a 2popwhip. Gift pigs to alex
1 (90)
Asoka asks us to convert to confucianism. Nice try to sabotage our war prepareations, buddy
3 (92)
After 2t of 100%, Fishing > Mysticism. Lagash whips its granary > WB.
5 (94)
Settle our first GSpy.
D)8 (97)
Myst > Medi. Meet Charles De Gaulle (WB on the south coast).
9 (98)
2popwhip library in lagash.
10 (99)
Asoka wants us to piss off Monty (cancel deals). Yeah, right, ask us for a favour today and attack us tomorrow
Chop @ Kish into library.11 (100)
2popwhip worker @ Kish (would lose hammers this turn. ASOKA FINALLY SHOWS UP, I move the vults into position
12 (101)
Asoka retreats. Damn
Spot this. Damn
14 (103)
Monty asks us to cancel deals with Asoka. I agree. Next time we'll enter his borders will be without OB anyway
Asoka finishes Alpha. Not nearly as advanced as Monty. I'm getting tired of waiting for Asoka to attack...
15 (104)
Notice that I chose poly to research instead of medi, sorry for that
Anyway, it is done now, PH next. ASOKA MOVES HIS WHOLE STACK and moves towards kish 5 vults are OTW to his northern city patali.
16 (105)
Finally, he DOWs
Lose a worker IBT but we have plenty anyway...17 (106)
Up north:
[Apparently, the next 2 s/s didn't work. One is a pic of the battle report]
Only lose 1 vult, bit lucky to capture it in 1t
Patali has a "lighthouse"-thingy, whatever that is Meanwhile, down south: The coward turns his stack back. Counterattack time!!
[Another lost battle report. Something like 7 kills vs 2 or 3 lost]
More losse, more kills. Deeecent
18 (107)
PH > Sailing. Zigs started everywhere except Uruk, which is about to grow. Switched to settler.
20 (109)
Damn, Alex gets the barb city. He's been sending tons of swords up there. I rushed 2 vults there but couldn't take the gamble to attack before alex
Another 50-50 battle won and one with even slightly lower odds and vijay is ours
These heroic acts spawn a GG.
Hit [Enter].
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I (finally!) stop here
Looks like I got a bit carried away, but I don't think longer TS are bad, keeps the game moving.More notes:
- Traded with monty and (just last turn) got wine so +1
. Uruk should spend 1t on ziig or vult to grow, then back to settler, then finish the other 2 builds.- Units unmoved. I ended the last turn to see whether Asoka would talk now (he doesn't). Thankfully he teched alpha so we'll be able to get techs off him once he talks. Is it possible he doesn't talk because I cancelled deals with him? I only just realized now that this might be the case...
- I think we should clean out the remaining units here and there, Asoka tried to recapture patali and killed a vult and lost a spearman. After those few remaining units we could heal and/or dogpile Delhi until we get peace.
- The warrior that was fortified in the jungle for no reason mapped out Alex' land. He has quite a lot but will take forever to develop.
- Research set to alpha. As soon as we have the cash we should go fullsteam so we get our spies out before Asoka is completely finished... remember we still focus EPs on him.
- I'd say we settle the GG in Uruk.
- We'll get a GS (likely) soon. I'd say we keep him until we tech medi and steal col to bulb philo. I was running scientists in Uruk to control growth, we'll soon get the spy slot as well.
- Vijay has a shrine for 9gpt atm.
- Zigs should be 2popwhipped. I set reminders for the last turn when they are 2popwhips (to keep working max tiles for as long as possible and regrow faster).
- Where do you want to settle? I'd go somewhere up north on the coast. Ur can build WBs for the new city to develop quickly.
- Getting sailing meant that we no longer have active TRs with Alex but with Monty (more commerce per TR).
- The tile improvements around vijay make my eyes hurt
Was pretty fun 
Though, if Asoka hadn't declared on the turn he did, I'd probably have declared on the next. I'm glad he did, made sure we wouldn't get -ves for declaring on a friend.
Hope he'll talk soon... No good leeching on a dead corpse
Though, if Asoka hadn't declared on the turn he did, I'd probably have declared on the next. I'm glad he did, made sure we wouldn't get -ves for declaring on a friend.Hope he'll talk soon... No good leeching on a dead corpse
Plan:
-2 Pop whip courthouses in every city. (Am I going to get a reminder at the end of the turn for all cities?)
-I propose we gather all of our forces to Ptali and Vijay and kill his units off and steal his capital before suing for peace if possible. We could throw in a couple of defenders if he refuses to talk and let him throw his units on us for GG points until he's willing.
-Try to research Alpha at 100% gold via conquerors gold
-Monty has stone available for trade. He will give it for clams and crabs. Perhaps it is worth it since we don't need the health right now and will get the we appreciate years....resources.. and fair trade.
-Worker actions:
Worker 5- NNE, chop
Worker 6- Pasture Plains Cow
Worker 7- Finish cottage, pre-chop nearby forests (Possibly rush a wonder out if there's anything good, hardly ever necessary though)
Worker 3 & 4: Continue chopping jungle
Worker 1: Dunno Build roads everywhere
City Builds:
Uruk-Zig 1 turn, switch to settler and take off scientists put on cottages, maximise chance of GSpy, let's try to only get GSpies if possible
Lagash-Zig, Lighthouse, Moai (Looks to be a strong production center)
Kish-Zig->OF to Vulture
Eridu-Zig->OF to Vulture
Ur- Granary 2 pop whip into Zig
Ptali- Chop Zig
Vijay- Switch it to work spices after whipping Eridu, whip Zig ASAP.
Workboat 1-Settle white city fish
Workboat 3-Explore Asoka's land.
-As for next city, I propose
-2 Pop whip courthouses in every city. (Am I going to get a reminder at the end of the turn for all cities?)
-I propose we gather all of our forces to Ptali and Vijay and kill his units off and steal his capital before suing for peace if possible. We could throw in a couple of defenders if he refuses to talk and let him throw his units on us for GG points until he's willing.
-Try to research Alpha at 100% gold via conquerors gold
-Monty has stone available for trade. He will give it for clams and crabs. Perhaps it is worth it since we don't need the health right now and will get the we appreciate years....resources.. and fair trade.
-Worker actions:
Worker 5- NNE, chop
Worker 6- Pasture Plains Cow
Worker 7- Finish cottage, pre-chop nearby forests (Possibly rush a wonder out if there's anything good, hardly ever necessary though)
Worker 3 & 4: Continue chopping jungle
Worker 1: Dunno
Build roads everywhereCity Builds:
Uruk-Zig 1 turn, switch to settler and take off scientists put on cottages, maximise chance of GSpy, let's try to only get GSpies if possible
Lagash-Zig, Lighthouse, Moai (Looks to be a strong production center)
Kish-Zig->OF to Vulture
Eridu-Zig->OF to Vulture
Ur- Granary 2 pop whip into Zig
Ptali- Chop Zig
Vijay- Switch it to work spices after whipping Eridu, whip Zig ASAP.
Workboat 1-Settle white city fish
Workboat 3-Explore Asoka's land.
-As for next city, I propose
Spoiler :
Should be set for most cities, at least the ones where I knew when it would be. You can still keep an eye on that though
He is currently getting pigs for free I think. At the time he had nothing to trade. When we have a decent deal for stone, go for it. You see on the map which resources will shortly be ours.
I'm fine with that. I just kinda couldn't leave the "80 turns until next great person" thing
Also, even when working specs and hills, the city was still about to grow into 
Do you mind giving our cities more useful names? (like "gold/marble" or so) I always have to look up on some map which city is meant.
As to the WBs, I tried scouting west but the barb galley put an end to that idea. That's what happens if you wait too long with this
I turned it around, currently moving along the coast. I couldn't send any Asoka's way as he has galleys of his own.Okay, I started playing and Asoka is now willing to talk but I'm going to take his capital first I think. It'll be a great asset to our cities
Oh good lord, this game is SCREAMING for us to research!
At this rate, we could easily blow the AI away! ahahaha
I think EE is better run on Deity where the AI actually run away
Oh good lord, this game is SCREAMING for us to research!
At this rate, we could easily blow the AI away! ahahaha
I think EE is better run on Deity where the AI actually run away
Just wanted your opinion, take or peace? He's willing to give us quite a bit for some peace at the moment. Med, Mono, CoL and Hunting. We could perhaps add MC or Alpha into it for some swaps I guess.
War success may end up making him less likely to give in to our demands as we will probably have some casualties whilst taking out the city.
Med, Mono, CoL and Hunting. We could perhaps add MC or Alpha into it for some swaps I guess.War success may end up making him less likely to give in to our demands as we will probably have some casualties whilst taking out the city.
Puh, difficult call. Since there are only 2 archers in delhi and it's not on a hill I'd say go for it. If another 2-3 archers/axes turn up, take peace, preferrably for MC (since we can broker that to Alex).
I don't think we really need more vultures. We're already paying 15gpt unit maintenance and I doubt we'll be using them again after Asoka anyway.
Switch EP spending to Alex I think.
What about: capturing Delhi and get max techs in peace deal, go 100% on alpha NOW, build spies asap, keep vults in the vicinity, steal as much as our EPs permit from him, then re-declare and finish him off?
I don't think we really need more vultures. We're already paying 15gpt unit maintenance and I doubt we'll be using them again after Asoka anyway.
Switch EP spending to Alex I think.
What about: capturing Delhi and get max techs in peace deal, go 100% on alpha NOW, build spies asap, keep vults in the vicinity, steal as much as our EPs permit from him, then re-declare and finish him off?
Oh okay, I was thinking of building Buddhist temples, but I know some people are really against that! I think they're reasonable builds however.
I'll see if I can capture Delhi with minimal losses.
Switch to Alex, seems good.
What about to see if I can get MC and trade it for Alpha and everything?
I think they're reasonable builds however.I'll see if I can capture Delhi with minimal losses.
Switch to Alex, seems good.
What about to see if I can get MC and trade it for Alpha and everything?
Alex doesn't seem to be in WHEOOH so there is no danger. The way the units are facing and the fact that there is just 1 phalanx left in Apache indicates that he just emptied that city of the remaining barb-defeating units.
I'd like to get a proper report of what's happening though, not just an odd s/s here and there
I'd like to get a proper report of what's happening though, not just an odd s/s here and there
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