Bill O'Reilly, Rev Wright = David Duke

Aegis said:
I was using those situations as an example for why some groups of people fail.


notice how using "some" shields me from being called a racist? Isn't that neat?
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:rolleyes:

Your examples and what I've said are worlds apart.

So let's see here, if I generalize and stereotype an entire group by saying what's true for a portion is true for the whole, I am a racist.

If I don't generalize and specifically indicate what problems a portion of a population is having, I am a racist hiding behind a disclaimer.

I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't.
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I think that he is getting at the fact that using those be-be kids is inaccurate because there aren't that many of them in comparison to those that work blood, sweat, and tears but just aren't educated enough to drag themselves out of poverty. A demiquote from Barack Obama's book the Audacity of Hope.

The news reports the story about the welfare momma with seven kids, but fails to cover the story about the mother that came back from ten hours to work and can't be there for her child.
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That isn't the direct quote, but you get what I mean.
 
Aegis said:
I was using those situations as an example for why some groups of people fail.



Your examples and what I've said are worlds apart.

So let's see here, if I generalize and stereotype an entire group by saying what's true for a portion is true for the whole, I am a racist.

If I don't generalize and specifically indicate what problems a portion of a population is having, I am a racist hiding behind a disclaimer.

I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't.
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Ive been on the internet long enough, to know that when people start resorting to talking about welfare and welfare mommas.. I know how they really feel and think about black people. Of course, it's not surprising. I knew how you felt about them way back when you said No one alive in this country has been enslaved. No one alive has done any enslaving, yet people still cry about it and use that as an excuse for their shortcomings.

This is typical mild racist garbage. You aren't a flaming racist, just an ignorant one.

You obviously have not really tried to understand the plight of black people, or understand why they are disproportionately impoverished. to you, its just because they listen to too much rap music and have too much sex and shoot too many guns and rob too many people.... just like tv says they do.
 
Ecofarm said:
I don't suppose that you will realize that this about about guilt by:

1) Poor judge of character
2) Choosing to associate, for 20 years, with the likes of Wright
3) Lying about what he knew
4) "Never being proud of her country before"

No-one is trying to indict Obama on racism charges, but he is guilty of 1-3 above and his wife is guilty of 4. You cannot change that by crying "guilt by association!" or "Bush Nazi!"
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Clinton is guilty of 2, and McCain is guilty of 2 1/4. Who cares what Obama's wife thinks, she isn't running for president.
 
Neomega said:
Ive been on the internet long enough, to know that when people start resorting to talking about welfare and welfare mommas.. I know how they really feel and think about black people. Of course, it's not surprising. I knew how you felt about them way back when you said No one alive in this country has been enslaved. No one alive has done any enslaving, yet people still cry about it and use that as an excuse for their shortcomings.

This is typical mild racist garbage. You aren't a flaming racist, just an ignorant one.

You obviously have not really tried to understand the plight of black people, or understand why they are disproportionately impoverished. to you, its just because they listen to too much rap music and have too much sex and shoot too many guns and rob too many people.... just like tv says they do.
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I do believe that this man does have a point. Say, are you an anthropologist, I think you are.
 
Ecofarm said:
I don't suppose that you will realize that this about about guilt by:

1) Poor judge of character
2) Choosing to associate, for 20 years, with the likes of Wright
3) Lying about what he knew
4) "Never being proud of her country before"

No-one is trying to indict Obama on racism charges, but he is guilty of 1-3 above and his wife is guilty of 4. You cannot change that by crying "guilt by association!" or "Bush Nazi!"
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bush nazi!

bush nazi!
 
Maneck21 said:
Are they well off? I looked at one of these arguments that seems to be over the exact same premise of race and Gecko1 said something like. African immigrants come to America with a good schooling, so I guess that, that translates to richer Ethiopian Jews. Knowledge can drag you out of any situation, but if you're rich enough to immigrate to America you shouldn't end up poor.
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No they are not rich or educated last I checked one was working at Sears as a stock boy.
 
skadistic said:
No they are not rich or educated last I checked one was working at Sears as a stock boy.
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I wonder if thats because they are jew, or because they are black, or because they are immigrants.

I further wonder why jews are even in this conversation, since jews and blacks aitn even the same situation.
 
Because Rev. Wright is an Ethiopian Jew who isn't rich and works as a Sears stock boy. Seriously get back on topi, if you want to argue why blacks are poor, open a thread called "why are blacks poor?"
 
Maneck21 said:
Then what was your point? By the way, when I say rich I mean "not poor" or well off. Middle class.
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So rich doesn't mean rich it means middle class and rich? How about you out line exactly what you mean and how it differs from everyone else when they use economic levels.
 
Neomega said:
I wonder if thats because they are jew, or because they are black, or because they are immigrants.

I further wonder why jews are even in this conversation, since jews and blacks aitn even the same situation.
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Id have to go with immigrants.

But isn't a black jew in the same situation as other blacks?
 
skadistic said:
So rich doesn't mean rich it means middle class and rich? How about you out line exactly what you mean and how it differs from everyone else when they use economic levels.
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Ok, sorry. Rich= 100,000+
Well off= 60,000-100,000
Middle Class= 50,000-120,000
Poor 0-50,000

A year of course, this acounts for combined households of two adults and two children.
 
Maneck21 said:
Clinton is guilty of 2, and McCain is guilty of 2 1/4. Who cares what Obama's wife thinks, she isn't running for president.
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We aren't talking about Clinton or McCain. "Look over there" is not a reasonable counter-argument. If you would like to discuss McCain's or Clinton's character issues, start a new thread.

The opinion of Obama's wife matters. I don't want a first lady who was never proud of this country until her husband ran for pres. Actually, she was never proud of this country until he did well in the primaries. That's pathetic.
 
Ecofarm said:
We aren't talking about McCain. "Look over there" is not a reasonable counter-argument. If you would like to discuss McCain's character issues, start a new thread.

The opinion of Obama's wife matters. I don't want a first lady who was never proud of this country until her husband ran for pres.
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I'm just drawing a line, I'm sorry.

Who cares what the first lady thinks. She isn't going to tell her husband to destroy the country.
 
We could argue why they are poor, but lets keep it at guns, rap, and sloth. I really don't want to see these guys angry.
 
Ecofarm said:
The opinion of Obama's wife matters. I don't want a first lady who was never proud of this country until her husband ran for pres.
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taking quotes out of context again, like Obama's "typical white person?"

You got NRO opened up in another window? perhaps LGF in another tab?

Its pretty tough to be proud of America as a black person, or a native American.
 
Neomega said:
good for you.

black = poor cuz why?

guns and rap and sloth, of course!
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Don't forget the victim/entitlement mentality perpetuated by welfare.
 
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