Bring back Cheat Mode!

[Lockesdonkey]

Scenario makers don't need cheats to test the scenarios...

In that you would be correct, but it certainly makes it easier.

So why not a debug mode, in which cheats are available for scen-makers? Quite honestly, I don't understand why you would want cheats for anything but scenario testing... Where's the intellectual challenge? Civ is supposed to ruling a nation! C'mon! Think! Games with cheats quickly become boring, because you can win with a few keystrokes.

 

[CurtSibling]

If the cheat mode is again integral to the scenario creation, it will have to be there.

But I think there will be a new system for modding now...

 

[Nailo]

No, I think it takes the fun out of the game. There should be no cheat code.

 

[hclass]

Ah! Those who don't want cheat mode loss?

Will Firaxis respect the majority's interest?

Sorry to resurrect this one, but since Civ4 is coming soon, they better add cheats now

 

[Akka]

So far, there is very good reasons to put the cheat mode back :
- Scenario testing ("debug mode").
- Some people having fun with cheating.

And the only reasons against this cheat mode are simply people who want to force their own vision of the game upon others (ie : not a reason at all).
Nobody force you to cheat. If you don't want to, don't use it. But what gives you the right to decide for OTHERS how they will play ?
That's plain arrogance. Go deflate your head and ego, and mind your own business. I don't tell you how you should play, so don't do it to me.

 

[Dr. Yoshi]

Well, since they've said that you can start a nation at whatever era you like (one of the ways I used cheat mode in Civ II was to bring everyone up to the modern age for some fun tank on tank action), I see no need for a cheat mode.

 

[Akka]

Well, since they've said that you can start a nation at whatever era you like (one of the ways I used cheat mode in Civ II was to bring everyone up to the modern age for some fun tank on tank action), I see no need for a cheat mode.

Well, it's written in my message above :

- Test scenario.
- Have fun.

You'd think that the simpleness of the thing would be obvious to everyone, but seemingly no...

 

[Comrade Pedro]

lolol.....well, looks like the pool are equal in both decisions....thats a dificult matter to decide =P....

 

[ComradeDavo]

Hmmm, I just made the 109 vote for 'no', putting that 1 ahead of the 'yes' vote

 

[Akka]

No, I think it takes the fun out of the game. There should be no cheat code.

So if *I* cheat, it takes the fun out of *YOUR* game ?

That's one of the most stupid argument I've ever seen

 

[Comrade Pedro]

he doesn't meaned that, you know it.....he was saying that basically cheats ruin games....

 

[PeteT]

AFAIK, there's an editor ("WorldBuilder") for making scenarios; but there's no 'Cheat Mode' , so everyone should be happy.

 

[ForbiddenPalace]

The editor can mod your civs to be invincible, so no need for the cheat mode.

 

[Xen]

cheat mode is teh sUxXoRz.

Only the weak want it.

 

[Akka]

he doesn't meaned that, you know it.....he was saying that basically cheats ruin games....

And I was pointing that if *I* use, it won't damage *HIS* game. And AFAIK, I don't hold a loaded gun on his temple to force him to use the cheat mode.

So I ask : HOW does that CAN ruin the game ?
I mean, it only works for those who WANTS it, right ? So if someone doesn't like it, he just have to not use it.

So far, all the "arguments" against the cheat mode are idiotic "it ruins the game !", "cheating is not fun" and so on. Well, nobody FORCE them to cheat, so why do they care ?

Seems to me that they are simply so weak-willed that they are afraid to not be able to prevent themselves from using it. And because they aren't able to discipline themselves, they want to deprive everyone from a very useful feature. Bah, pathetic.

The editor can mod your civs to be invincible, so no need for the cheat mode.

If we can activate the editor during a game, then it actually acts like a cheat mode, and is all what is needed.

 

[Comrade Pedro]

when you have the possibility of cheating so close to you, you feel inclined to use them to solve your dificult problems. That takes the playability of the game. Nobody said that you ruined my game if you use cheats on your game, but it ruins YOUR game.

In the other way, if you dont have cheats and want to solve the problems anyway you go to the help forums and expose your problem to the other, learning from their experience....

 

[Akka]

when you have the possibility of cheating so close to you, you feel inclined to use them to solve your dificult problems. That takes the playability of the game. Nobody said that you ruined my game if you use cheats on your game, but it ruins YOUR game.

I think I'm aged enough to know myself if my game has been ruined or not, or if I'll use cheats or not, thank you. I don't think anyone to come over a game I play and have fun, and say "no you're not having fun, your game has been ruined".

 

[Carver]

Only the weak want it.

That reminds me of one of the cheat codes from one of the Simcities: ctrl+c, and type "i am weak" to get free zoning and roads. I used that one a few times.

I think the cheat mode should be in. If not a cheat mode, an easy way of saving a game, modding it (giving yourself 50 tanks etc.) and playing from there. I don't think I would use it often - but just to experience different things.

 

[Tunch Khan]

What cheat mode? What is a cheat?

 

[Comrade Pedro]

I think I'm aged enough to know myself if my game has been ruined or not, or if I'll use cheats or not, thank you. I don't think anyone to come over a game I play and have fun, and say "no you're not having fun, your game has been ruined".

No Problem Akka, i'm glad you have age enough to do that. It's obvious that neither I nor you are going to give up our statements because of this dialogue, even if it last forever. So, i think the solution is to settle this matter and stop being repeatedly boring...