Bring Back Pact of Secrecy

TW_Honorius

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I really do not know why this was taken out of the game, I hope the next patch makes diplomacy changes and brings it back, anyone else miss POS?
 
I'm pretty sure it increased the aggression of the Civ with whom you signed the DoS towards the target Civ. But it was murky at best.
 
I'm pretty sure it increased the aggression of the Civ with whom you signed the DoS towards the target Civ. But it was murky at best.

I think it also made your DoS partner mad at you if you opened new trades with the target.
 
I don't miss it because it didn't do a single thing. But I agree with you about how since the patch the diplomacy as been even worse.
 
How could you miss the POS? They never specified what it did and it never appeared to do anything.

There's a great early Civ 5 youtube where the guy spends a minute looking for what a pact of secrecy is on the civelopedia and can't find it and he is nonplussed that it's not in there. He doesn't freak or anything, but given what I know now, it was a great precursor to the current history that is Civ V.
 
I really do not know why this was taken out of the game

How about it was undocumented, with no indication to the player what it was or wasn't doing, how the AI were using it, or what problems it might cause or benefits it might bring. The AI were able to make up the rules of these as they went along, with the player unable to cancel them or know if the AI were obeying them or not.

Apart from that, they worked fine, or they didn't, we don't know. It was a secret.
 
Yeah they were so secret not even the people making them were allowed to know what they do...

maybe they accidently fired the one developer who worked on them and knew what they actually did so had no choice but to get rid of them in the end...

only got the game post patch so I never got to play with them to know if they were better/worse then the current system
 
Yeah they were so secret not even the people making them were allowed to know what they do...

maybe they accidently fired the one developer who worked on them and knew what they actually did so had no choice but to get rid of them in the end...

only got the game post patch so I never got to play with them to know if they were better/worse then the current system

I still play on the old patch (Mac side) and I still have no idea what it does. I agree to a PoS with Washington against Bismarck, and sometime later Bismarck DoW's me. So I go to Washington's diplo screen, and his bottom quote is "Any ideas what to do about Bismarck?" And so I ask him to DoW. And he's all like "Nah".

Thanks for your help, there, Mr. Washington.
 
Yeah they were so secret not even the people making them were allowed to know what they do...

maybe they accidently fired the one developer who worked on them and knew what they actually did so had no choice but to get rid of them in the end...

I suspect that, like Dean Wormer, Sid was so irritated by getting screwed over by Pacts of Secrecy in his own games that he put his allies, enemies, and programmers alike on Double Secret Pacts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0cF2piwjYQ
 
I would have liked it kept as a secret agreement between 2 civs agianst another civ, which im guessing was what they intended - no trade, prepare for war, defensive pacts etc. Pity you cant do secret deals like that. Of course the AI will probably stab you in the back anyhows.
 
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