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So I am playing on Prince which is normally quite easy for me ... but lack of gold is brutal. I cannot afford to keep any kind of army at all and the AI seems to have plenty of gold for its defensive armies. :( Even with my two caravan trade routes and three cities, circa 1000BC I just can't afford to keep any more than a handful of units :(

And the amount of STUFF you can build is just mind-blowing ... and technological progress just shoots by so quickly, you basically can only build a small portion of what's available, and you have to rush units out if you want any use of them before they are obsolete.

It feels like there's so much choice now - units, buildings, policies - that it's totally impossible to fully appreciate it. The game feels like a huge confused rush. I don't like it :(
 
lol i feel the same way, there are so many things you need to have, that i end up just not specializing in anything at all, still, i was doing ok trying to specialize in specialists until my civilization decided that my theology was wrong, and crippled my entire empire with 50 unhappiness, sigh

and you can forget about building wonders, i dont even try anymore
 
I had the opposit experience in my first game, which was a standard map size and default settings. I thought the game moved along slower, which was nice. Playing a second game now as Venice, Prince Level, and it seems similar in pace.
 
There's no doubt the new features are a handful. Gold usually gets easier toward the mid-game; I'm making about as much as I ever do. Wonders are also harder to get, but it is worth trying; they are too important to leave to the AI.

The best way for me was to focus on two main changes: trade routes and the need to protect myself with culture, and two related minor changes: barbs are a greater threat and a greater opportunity, and get those GWAMs and great works.

Some are claiming the AI is listless and harmless. On my Emperor game as Poland, it's the opposite. Shoshone are a brutal cultural warmonger, Venice is a cutthroat diplomatic player, and Napoleon and Assyria are aggressive great powers.

For me, it took a little while before the new features clicked in my head. I'm sure the same will happen with you.
 
My first game as Poland on King was pretty easy. No one declared war on me until 2002, and all that time I spent building wonders and great works. I couldn't trade within my own borders for some reason, and only started trading overseas in the renaissance era. I got a culture victory in the end, before even hitting the internet.
 
The game became much Easier on BNW... In my current game on King I'm 6 techs ahead of the runner-up, have every Wonder that's available to me, and I have more gold than I'd ever care to spend. Maybe BNW is meant to be played on higher difficulties...
 
I had some difficulty too, at first, but all in all I think BNW makes game a lot easier, especially for playing tall. One can now generate tons of gold through a single trading haven while culture requires more than just cities and science penalizes inefficient wideness. Once I accepted that playing tall, at least initially, is the BNW way, things got a lot easier.
 
If you are not trading, you are not making much money...build those caravans and cargo ships! That's the best way to get gold and science...trade internally with your own cities only if you need to build up the population fast or need to push wonder construction, otherwise trade with your neighbors.
 
Caravans are huge now at the start of the game. Check your trading unit slots (you increase them by researching specific techs) and fill them ASAP. Its a fundamental part of building your early infrastructure. Watch out, as barbs and enemy civs will plunder your routes, which means you have to build the trading unit again from scratch! Also, you lose the units if your trading partner DoWs you. Also, trade lux's to the AI for GPT. It isn't as flashy as lump sum trading, but it helps (the AI on lower difficulties tends to run a deficit at the mid-game, which makes this even harder - no AI atm for you!). Also, your capital often has terrible options for trade routes. Find a city on your borders that is closest to your neighbor's big cities and rebase your Caravans there. In my recent Zulu win, I had all my Caravans based in a puppeted Berlin, trading with the remaining cities in the conquered Portuguese and German empires. This was a lot of easy gold throughout the mid and late game, and they never dared raise a finger against my Impi horde!

Markets are also waay more important now than they were in G&K. Currency > Education.
 
So I am playing on Prince which is normally quite easy for me ... but lack of gold is brutal. I cannot afford to keep any kind of army at all and the AI seems to have plenty of gold for its defensive armies. :( Even with my two caravan trade routes and three cities, circa 1000BC I just can't afford to keep any more than a handful of units :(

What qualifies as "a handful of units", and what social policies are you using? If you only have three cities, it sounds like Tradition is a no-brainer, and that comes with free upkeep for three units and a bunch of free gold from your capital.

Also, switch out the caravans for cargo ships, they're worth more money. If you can't, at least make sure you have a caravansery in the cities you're running trade routes from. Bonus points if one of those cities can be on a river.

And the amount of STUFF you can build is just mind-blowing ... and technological progress just shoots by so quickly, you basically can only build a small portion of what's available, and you have to rush units out if you want any use of them before they are obsolete. It feels like there's so much choice now - units, buildings, policies - that it's totally impossible to fully appreciate it. The game feels like a huge confused rush. I don't like it :(

Well, yeah. You need to pick and choose your direction - you can't do everything all at once. Religion is probably the most noticeable in this regard - in G&K you could put a bit of effort in at the start of the game, get yourself a good faith-producing pantheon, and your religion would basically run itself from that point onwards, giving you bonuses. If you try that in BNW, there will be someone next door who went MAXIMUM JESUS and took the entire Piety tree, built Borobodur (3 free missionaries) and your holy city will be converted before you can blaspheme.

Decide at the start of the game, "Am I going to try to compete in the religion game?" and work out what you want from it if you are. Otherwise, don't worry about it, leave shrines, temples and the Piety tree to others.

This isn't just the case with religion, other game concepts have it too. Take cultural victory, for instance. You can spend a ton of resources generating culture, running specialist writers, artists and painters, taking the Aesthetics policy tree, building archaeologists and all that stuff. OR, you could go, "I'm not going to try to compete in this area", use the resources you would have spent on culture and great works to build an army, or bribe city states, or get more science, or something else.

I might be wrong, but it sounds to me like you're trying to compete in every area of the game simultaneously, and not doing very well at any of them. Try this: Play Brazil, and go for a culture victory. Forget religion and focus on making sure you have as much culture and as many great works as possible. See how you do.
 
Once trade routes are on the go and you are selling luxes for gpt, there really isn't much of an issue.

Having to hard build so much is a real change of pace, but by about turn 100 I generally find I've got the same finances as I'd have had in G&K
 
As of now, I still haven't really played a game with a coastal capital. Would that boost my early game economy?
 
I am on prince, since its my first match in this expansion, but I am almost two eras ahead in tech, as the Shoshone. I'm about to win a cultural victory in the modern era.

Far as I can tell, the game is significantly easier. No one ever declared war on me. I attacked Brazil and Portugal because they closed me with aggressive settling, but I razed everything with the free Foreign Legions alone.
 
I am on prince, since its my first match in this expansion, but I am almost two eras ahead in tech, as the Shoshone. I'm about to win a cultural victory in the modern era.

Far as I can tell, the game is significantly easier. No one ever declared war on me. I attacked Brazil and Portugal because they closed me with aggressive settling, but I razed everything with the free Foreign Legions alone.

Definitely time to play a harder level or two.
 
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