BTS-3.03 Relations Bug?

weasel77066

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Im playing v303 huge map, perm alliances enabled. Currently there are three colonies for AI civs, and two permanent alliances have been formed. I am in one of them.
The game is entering the space race, and most corporations have begun to spread. OK, so I went on the make a few moves and noticed that there were open border treaties where there used to be none, I even had sudden open borders with my arch enemy and his allies. I had just forced a peace via the UN (Im the S.General) and I thought that might have done something to that effect and I didnt know it would happen, so oh well.
The game went on for ten turns and most of the open borders were cancelled by each civ who didnt want them. A few turns later, suddenly there are Defensive pacts all the way across the board. Everyone with everyone. Now Im the head of the UN and nothing like that came by my desk, and the A.Palace is negated, and even should my permanent ally be making deals without my knowledge- it wouldnt account for everyone elses pacts as well. So it must be a bug.
Ive noticed the defensive pact glitch with vassals (colonies) in my first two games, where they show up but really arent there... but this is extreme. Really odd.
Also have a bug in the civpedia where it crashes half the time you look through it.
and the money in the foriegn advisor and the leaderhead negotiations don't match all the time.
Thats really all I noticed.. that should be a bug or error. Couple of quick points (questions) I want to bring up.--
Privateers that are harbored in a coastal city instantly die if an AI ship enters the city? Say a caravel of someone you have an open borders with. I think there should be a fight sequence just as though they were at sea.
With defying resolutions- if everyone votes yes and one snotty little vassal defies it, then the whole thing fails? I guess thats supposed to be like that, right? I wasnt sure
OK, thanks for your time in reading this. Other than that and a few graphic stutters and such, everything else seems fine.
 
I know the privateer bug is being fixed in the next patch, but I don't know anything about the other stuff. I haven't even seen them happen. I don't have that version anyway. The combat animation bug annoyed me so much I un/reinstalled the expansion to go back to 3.02. Version 3.03 just ain't good.
 
Yea Ive been reading through the forum for a few minutes and Ive decided to roll back to 302, now that Ive found the patch to download.
That defense pact thing pretty much ruined the game I was playing.
 
Both the defensive pact and open borders that you report are consistent with apostolic palace resolutions - and so are not bugs.
 
This one is definitely some kinda of blooper or a bug. Personally I think it has to do with random events.. some bug tied in with random events. The way these have happened are inconsistent with the way the AP works, cause Ive passed those before and this is different
It shows AI having a vassal who has a defense pact on his own with someone the AI hates, etc... and now all across the relations page, even with people who arent members of the AP. Currently the UN has been active for quite some time, and doesnt that close out the AP voting anyway? its something like 1950ad and several UN resolutions have been passed.


EDIT- I'll throw the save up here. One thing I did notice that I just remembered, is that this trouble started when I used the UN to force peace in the war against Bismark. I stopped Boudica from jack-slappin Bismark and thats when the trouble started. interestingly Bismark is the only one who doesnt have the defense pacts all the way around. Any colonies don't have them as well.
 
OK that was it. You guys got me through it and just before I was going to un-install 303 and install 302. Thanks for your help

The BUILDER of the AP does NOT have mass media. The resident DOES have mass media. So the AP is still functioning. Im running theocracy to keep their heretics from getting me involved and so I have no votes in the AP, but my permanent ally is a voting member, so they are passing resolutions that are inadvertantly affecting me, and Bismark is not a member either. What a freaky set of circumstances that had BUG written all over it. Thats why this forum is so great!

So the game is running perfectly normal and this is NOT a blooper. Guess I better gift mass media to some people right quick. LOL

Thanks again guys, J-
 
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