[BTS] Earth 3000BC

[Lachlan]

What about celtic tribes ? For Stonehenge or the fact that celts was extended
You could have several separated celtic tribes, like 4-5 for illustrate disunion

What about bronze age Troy (should be independent and use the second leader non used of Greece for Priam) and Minoan Civ (Minos)...
As result Greek Civ should be duplicated three once

And Sumeria ? Why not split it in three civs to illustrate city states fact, Uruk? Tello ? Ninive ?

I discovered that 4 civs based on one civ have 4 different colors

The map is it able to have 18 civs, you can have 4 minors civs acting as barbarians...

 

[Agent327]

Celts around 3000 BC is about a millennium early, though.

 

[Lachlan]

Links on Wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_millennium_BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_millennium_BC

Lot of ideas of civs...

Frankly you should renaming "Earth3rdMilleniumBC" or "EarlyEarth3500BC-2500BC" would had mixing all the civs of this period

@ Jeelen : can you explain me more ?
I writted this because if it's an huge map, the varied areas of earth shouldn't to be too empty...
Celts have appeared when ?

 

[Gurra09]

This will be in the new version of this scenario:

Greece will be divided into three civs. Mycenaean Empire, Minoan Empire and Trojan Empire.

In South America there will be the Norte Chico Empire with Caral as the capital and only city. I can't found any leader for that civ.

India will be added with Meluhha (that isn't a real leader but the Sumerian name of the Harappa civilization as JEELEN said) with Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro as cities. Harappa will be capital because of the leader name Meluhha.

Egypt will be united because Menes is the leader and he was the one who united Egypt.

In Mesopotamia there will be the Sumerian Empire with Uruk as capital and Gilgamesh as leader, also there will be the Akkadian Empire with Akkad as capital and Sargon as leader.

Civilizations:

Akkad (Sumeria)
Leader: Sargon (Darius I)
Cities: Akkad (Capital)

China (China)
Leader: Yu (Qin Shi Huang)
Cities: Yanshi (Capital)

Egypt (Egypt)
Leader: Menes (Ramesses II)
Cities: Memphis (Capital), Thebes

India (India)
Leader: Meluhha (Asoka)
Cities: Harappa (Capital), Mohenjo-Daro

Minoa (Greece)
Leader: Minos (?)
Cities: Knossos (Capital)

Mycenae (Greece)
Leader: Perseus (Alexander)
Cities: Mycenae (Capital)

Norte Chico (Inca)
Leader: ? (?)
Cities: Caral (Capital)

Sumeria (Sumeria)
Leader: Gilgamesh (Gilgamesh)
Cities: Uruk (Capital)

Troy (Greece)
Leader: ? (Pericles)
Cities: Troy (Capital)

 

[snipperrabbit!!]

You should invert Knossos & Mycenae.

 

[CurryAztec]

Now that you are making this scenario bigger, look how much improvement there is.

 

[Lachlan]

This will be in the new version of this scenario:

Greece will be divided into three civs. Mycenaean Empire, Minoan Empire and Trojan Empire.

In South America there will be the Norte Chico Empire with Caral as the capital and only city. I can't found any leader for that civ.

India will be added with Meluhha (that isn't a real leader but the Sumerian name of the Harappa civilization as JEELEN said) with Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro as cities. Harappa will be capital because of the leader name Meluhha.

Egypt will be united because Menes is the leader and he was the one who united Egypt.

In Mesopotamia there will be the Sumerian Empire with Uruk as capital and Gilgamesh as leader, also there will be the Akkadian Empire with Akkad as capital and Sargon as leader.

Civilizations:

Akkad (Sumeria)
Leader: Sargon (Darius I)
Cities: Akkad (Capital)

China (China)
Leader: Yu (Qin Shi Huang)
Cities: Yanshi (Capital)

Egypt (Egypt)
Leader: Menes (Ramesses II)
Cities: Memphis (Capital), Thebes

India (India)
Leader: Meluhha (Asoka)
Cities: Harappa (Capital), Mohenjo-Daro

Minoa (Greece)
Leader: Minos (?)
Cities: Mycenae (Capital)

Mycenae (Greece)
Leader: Perseus (Alexander)
Cities: Knossos (Capital)

Norte Chico (Inca)
Leader: ? (?)
Cities: Caral (Capital)

Sumeria (Sumeria)
Leader: Gilgamesh (Gilgamesh)
Cities: Uruk (Capital)

Troy (Greece)
Leader: ? (Pericles)
Cities: Troy (Capital)

You cant decently to make only 3000BC, you should have a tolerance +/- 250 years according to wikipedia and you will find more civs or cultures and the map will be more complete...

Trypillians, Elam ? Culture on upper nile ? Van Lang ? Skara Brae ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_millennium_BC all these culture in the limit of 250 years tolerance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_millennium_BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_millennium_BC

So i relink Wikipedia to you, you will see better that i mean

 

[Lachlan]

What are the news ?

 

[Gurra09]

I haven't come up with any news yet. I've got other things to do the last days. I am going to read the Wikipedia articles that you gave me the links to soon.

 

[Lachlan]

Glad to see that these Wikipedia articles have gived ideas to you

 

[Gurra09]

Some new things to be added:

Trypillian Empire with Talianki as capital and Dobrovody or Maydanets as second city. Maybe I'll give them three cities. I don't know which civilization I'll rename to Trypillia and I'll have to come up with a leader name.

Elamite Empire with their capital and only city Susa. For them I also haven't find any leadername.

It's hard to find leadernames for early cultures...

 

[Krzowwh]

I think Troy migh be Darnadus.
I don't like the idea of using the Sumerian name for the Indus Valley Civilization for the ruler. I think that using a king from the Sun Dynasty would be better.

 

[Gurra09]

New Civilization list:

Akkad (Sumeria)
Leader: Sargon (Darius I)
Cities: Akkad (Capital)

China (China)
Leader: Yu (Qin Shi Huang)
Cities: Yangcheng (Capital), Yanshi

Egypt (Egypt)
Leader: Menes (Ramesses II)
Cities: Memphis (Capital), Thebes

Elam (Persia)
Leader: ? (Cyrus)
Cities: Susa (Capital)

India (India)
Leader: Brihadratha (Asoka)
Cities: Harappa (Capital), Mohenjo-Daro

Minoa (Greece)
Leader: Minos (?)
Cities: Knossos (Capital)

Mycenae (Greece)
Leader: Perseus (Alexander)
Cities: Mycenae (Capital)

Norte Chico (Inca)
Leader: ? (Huayna Capac)
Cities: Caral (Capital)

Sumeria (Sumeria)
Leader: Gilgamesh (Gilgamesh)
Cities: Uruk (Capital), Kish, Ur

Troy (Greece)
Leader: ? (Pericles)
Cities: Troy (Capital)

Trypillia (?)
Leader: ? (?)
Cities: Talianki (Capital), Dobrovody, Maydanets

 

[Agent327]

Egypt (Egypt)
Leader: Menes (Ramesses II)
Cities: Memphis (Capital), Thebes

Egypt was originally unified from the north, making Thebes the older capital.

Elam (Persia)
Leader: ? (Cyrus)
Cities: Susa (Capital)

Leader: Elam, son of Shem (bible) or Luhi-ishan (22th c king)

Norte Chico (Inca)
Leader: ? (Huayna Capac)
Cities: Caral (Capital)

Leader: Staff Wielder (theocratic societies, "Staff God" veneration)
Cities: Huaura, Supe, Pativilca (circa 30 in archeological evidence)

Troy (Greece)
Leader: ? (Pericles)
Cities: Troy (Capital)

Leader: Teucer/Dardanus/Tros/Ilus/Priamos.

 

[Gurra09]

Menes is also credited with the foundation of Memphis, which he established as the Egyptian capital.

Because of that, Memphis is the capital of Egypt in this scenario.

Changes in the civilization list:

Elam (Persia)
Leader: Luhi-ishan (Cyrus)
Cities: Susa (Capital)

Minoa (Greece)
Leader: Minos (Julius Caesar)
Cities: Knossos (Capital)

Norte Chico (Inca)
Leader: Staff Wielder (Huayna Capac)
Cities: Caral (Capital), Huaura, Pativilca

Troy (Greece)
Leader: Dardanus (Pericles)
Cities: Troy (Capital)

Now, the only civilization that isn't completely planned is Trypillia. I don't know which civilization to base it on and if I really have place for all the three cities on the map.

Trypillia (?)
Leader: ? (?)
Cities: Talianki (Capital), Dobrovody, Maydanets

 

[Lachlan]

Nice ! Trypillia is proto-Romania ? I will get infos...

Why not Basescu, Milescu or "Protoscu" for leader name ?

Have you placed barbarians cities ?

You can have an 1.00 version first and, after, an 1.10 version

 

[Gurra09]

No, I haven't placed any Barbarian cities.

About Trypillia, I can't figure out which civ to base it on. Trypillia is located in modern-day Ukraine so maybe Russia would be the best choice of civilization to base it on...

 

[Lachlan]

I got this info of proto-romania by browsing the official trypillian website finded on wikipedia page which stating on tripillyan civ

 

[Lachlan]

What are the news

 

[Gurra09]

I haven't worked on this for a time but still the only thing I need is leader for Trypillia.