Buce 02 - The Son's Of Ghengis Khan

[Phaedo]

looks great Tusker!

It looks like you got some bad RNG roles, but it looks like you did everything you wanted to do.

I'm not overly familiar with army stacks. How many did you have in yours? How many did you need to take a town with confidence?

 

[ThinkTank]

Two quick observations from a glance over the save:

Destroying the Turks has ended mobilization.

Persia has a rubber source connected near Arbela, connected to their core by harbors, we want to pillage that I think.

 

[Phaedo]

Nice eye TT.

I've just done a tour of the empire. I'll have a closer look and post some goals for my set.

I think up next yes? I've got it.

 

[Elephantium]

For the Turks, I never needed more than 3 armies on a particular city. Then again, I had more armies there than I knew what to do with

As you move 'em towards Japan's old lands to raze Persian (and Egyptian) cities, I'd put 'em in stacks of 5. 4 should be enough to raze cities without being counterattacked, but the 5th provides a safety margin. Besides, we have TONS of armies.

TT - good observations. Persia doesn't have RPs yet, but they could trade with Egypt for it pretty much any time.

Other notes: there are a lot of military units all over the place. Many of the armies are fortified for healing, so look around a bit. Major locations are:
* Ottoman peninsula (quite spread out)
* Just north of Japan - an army is covering slaves and 2 arty
* Egypt - not far from Thebes
* Persia - their former core (by the ruins of Persepolis and Pasargadae)

Also, I misclicked and sent a stack of 3 roaders through a swamp on their way to a jungle. You'll see them on automove after the IBT -- sorry about that.

Finally...we only need ~20 more Settlers to completely fill our continent with tax farms. Should we switch towns to Wealth, or should we build more settlers to make tax farms in old Ottoman lands? Personally, I'd lean towards switching new builds to Wealth; the game will probably be won before all the current cities finish their Settler builds.

 

[Phaedo]

Wealth works for me. They could build something to add to army builds as well I suppose, but it would take a while.

I should be ready to play early next week. I might be able to get to it tomorrow, but it's unlikely.

 

[Bucephalus]

Nice set, Tusker.

I don't think there is any need for strategy posts any longer, but I'll just note that we can drop the slider back to 10% - we'll just need to put MPs in a couple of the bigger cities.

 

[ThinkTank]

Finally...we only need ~20 more Settlers to completely fill our continent with tax farms. Should we switch towns to Wealth, or should we build more settlers to make tax farms in old Ottoman lands? Personally, I'd lean towards switching new builds to Wealth; the game will probably be won before all the current cities finish their Settler builds.

Agreed, I'd say quit building settlers altogether (give or take a few), and max out the farms we have, we have enough. This game will probably last another 3 turnsets max, we have still about 40 cities to destroy (quick count on the minimap), so new farms will hardly become productive anymore.

 

[Elephantium]

I should also note that we have a LOT of cannons and workers, unescorted, at the old landing site in Persia. I started a Frigate and a Galleon build in Old China, but I didn't rush them to completion. We may wish to do so to avoid having them captured by Persian cavs on adventure.

 

[Phaedo]

I caught a cold on Sunday and took the morning off today. I got a couple of turns in and should be able to post a mid-set tonight.

 

[Bucephalus]

I caught a cold on Sunday and took the morning off today. I got a couple of turns in and should be able to post a mid-set tonight.

No hurry, mate - get well soon.

 

[Phaedo]

It took a couple of days, but here is a mid set save. It took a couple of turns to get into the swing of things, but all is good. We have tons of gold and are rushing armies every two turns. If you see anything that needs attention that I have missed and can correct in my final two turns, please let me know.

Spoiler :

Pre set: 1350
Do a tour. Everything seems in order.
Use what's left of movement to start organizing my push at Persia and Egypt.
Don't really know what to do with that stack of arty and workers by our old landing point, but start moving them down. Maybe they can meet up with an army later.
709g 180gpt

IBT
Egypt requests an audience
Japanese found a city near silk road

T1 1355
Lots of worker moves
Take Edo
And Civ3 crashed Arg!
Load the auto save at the beginning of the turn
Changed all settler builds that would take more than 20 turns to wealth.
1356g 564gpt

IBT
Just a bunch of movement

T2 1360
Pillage the salt and rubber near Arbela and raze the city taking Sun Tsu's with it
Raze Osaka
Do a little housekeeping, lower the slider etc.
1945g 657gpt

IBT
Persia drops scattered troops around

T3 1365
Raze Nagasaki
Plant a few cities
Rush an army

IBT
Persians land some more troops and Egyptian forces scuttle about.

T4 1370
Raze Tanis (Egypt)
Armies are healing so can't do much attacking.
Check newly grown cities
701gpt



IBT
Our people want us to build the iron works. Meh....

T5 1375
Raze Memphis. And so goes Smith's
Rush an army
Tour towns about to grow
Lost some gold to settler builds
699gpt

IBT
Persian landing

T6 1380
Raze Nara
Take a swing at Thebes, but don't have enough moves to pull it off.
tour the cities that grew
732gpt (that's more like it)

IBT
Zzzzzzz

T7 1385
A bunch of settler builds came in. Hopefully, that is the last of them. They are just annoying now.
I got a little cash giddy and built a town at the old landing site. Plan to rush a harbour next turn to start a more northern link in the trans-continental railroad for our armies.
Bye Bye Yokohama (I don't care how great you think your city is!)
Kill a rogue Persian MGl
Raze Thebes
Raze Satsuma
Rush army
Those settler builds hurt us. I wish I had figured out how many wanted and killed the rest
693gpt

IBT
Persia stole some workers back (my bad)

T8 1390
We have a ton of cav (20 on our continent and 10 on the beta continent). I switched the 4-turn plus cities to wealth builds. I'm going to post this save, so if you want me to change them back Buce, let me know.
Raze Byblos
Kill a rogue Egyptian settler pair
We have 12 settlers so change remaining settler builds in growth cities to wealth, regardless of shield loss (should have made that call earlier).
732gpt

I'll finish the final two turns tomorrow

I'll post pics at the end of the set

@Buce, if you want me to switch back to cav builds, let me know.

 

[Bucephalus]

@Buce, if you want me to switch back to cav builds, let me know.

No, it makes good sense, as long as we have enough to fill an Army each time.

 

[Phaedo]

We have plenty to fill armies and Ta-Tu is still making 2-turn cavs. We still have half a dozen cities making 4-turn cav as well. I could keep the cav builds going and shuffle them over to the other continent. It just seems like a lot of movement for maybe a city or two. It just seems easier to concentrate on wealth and rush stuff if we need to.

No worries if the team wants to send over more cav though

 

[Elephantium]

Ta-tu should be making one-turn cavs...

 

[Phaedo]

Ta-tu should be making one-turn cavs...

Should it? I'll get on that. I think I know what happened. Definitely my fault. There was some pollution that messed up the citizen allocations. I probably didn't readjust properly.

 

[Elephantium]

Should it? I'll get on that. I think I know what happened. Definitely my fault. There was some pollution that messed up the citizen allocations. I probably didn't readjust properly.

Yea...I think it was making ~86 spt during my turnset.

Not that it matters much, given our wealth of cavs

 

[Phaedo]

Not that it matters much, given our wealth of cavs

Exactly.

I'm still more than a little rusty with my Civ3 routine, but I have been really enjoying finishing off this game with you guys.

 

[Elephantium]

It's been a great game. I'm glad Buce started it so many moons ago

 

[Phaedo]

Finally done

Spoiler :

Pre set: 1350
Do a tour. Everything seems in order.
Use what's left of movement to start organizing my push at Persia and Egypt.
Don't really know what to do with that stack of arty and workers by our old landing point, but start moving them down. Maybe they can meet up with an army later.
709g 180gpt

IBT
Egypt requests an audience
Japanese found a city near silk road

T1 1355
Lots of worker moves
Take Edo
And Civ3 crashed Arg!
Load the auto save at the beginning of the turn
Changed all settler builds that would take more than 20 turns to wealth.
1356g 564gpt

IBT
Just a bunch of movement

T2 1360
Pillage the salt and rubber near Arbela and raze the city taking Sun Tsu's with it
Raze Osaka
Do a little housekeeping, lower the slider etc.
1945g 657gpt

IBT
Persia drops scattered troops around

T3 1365
Raze Nagasaki
Plant a few cities
Rush an army

IBT
Persians land some more troops and Egyptian forces scuttle about.

T4 1370
Raze Tanis (Egypt)
Armies are healing so can't do much attacking.
Check newly grown cities
701gpt



IBT
Our people want us to build the iron works. Meh....

T5 1375
Raze Memphis. And so goes Smith's
Rush an army
Tour towns about to grow
Lost some gold to settler builds
699gpt

IBT
Persian landing

T6 1380
Raze Nara
Take a swing at Thebes, but don't have enough moves to pull it off.
tour the cities that grew
732gpt (that's more like it)

IBT
Zzzzzzz

T7 1385
A bunch of settler builds came in. Hopefully, that is the last of them. They are just annoying now.
I got a little cash giddy and built a town at the old landing site. Plan to rush a harbour next turn to start a more northern link in the trans-continental railroad for our armies.
Bye Bye Yokohama (I don't care how great you think your city is!)
Kill a rogue Persian MGl
Raze Thebes
Raze Satsuma
Rush army
Those settler builds hurt us. I wish I had figured out how many wanted and killed the rest
693gpt

IBT
Persia stole some workers back (my bad)

T8 1390
We have a ton of cav (20 on our continent and 10 on the beta continent). I switched the 4-turn plus cities to wealth builds. I'm going to post this save, so if you want me to change them back Buce, let me know.
Raze Byblos
Kill a rogue Egyptian settler pair
We have 12 settlers so change remaining settler builds in growth cities to wealth, regardless of shield loss (should have made that call earlier).
732gpt
I'm going to pause here. I'll finish the final two turns tomorrow

IBT
Nothing special

T9 1395
MGL with a Persian landing Unit
Take a swing at Alexandria, but don't have the juce
I don't see how Ta-Tu can get up to 80spt. Oh I see, we aren't mobilized.
760gpt

IBT
troop movement

T10 1400
Raze Cheju
Raze Alexandria
Do the worker moves
Tour growth cities

I left all the armies I didn't use for the attacks with full movement so Buce can organize them as he likes.

Basically, there are some armies mopping up in the South of Egypt and the rest are rolling up Egypt and pushing into South Persia. That is all railed to the Ottoman landing and the Persian Gate landing is almost roaded.

There might be a dozen or so squares that could still be cleared, railed and irrigated, but other than that, there is not much work left for our workers on our continent.

There is a stack of settlers. I think I have changed any settler builds in the empire to wealth.

 

[ThinkTank]

Good progress! Pity about the mobilization, but I guess it's no big deal as we have more than enough.

Persia has infantry now? Strange as I do not see them having rubber. That must have been builds started in the first 2 tuns of the turnset, as you pillaged the rubber in 1360. Did you face any significant amount of infantry or just the occasional one?

I propose we declare on Japan soon - our armies are in the area anyway, and we can divert some of them to Japan after we raze Giza. This will save some work later, as we don't have to walk our armies back, and don't have to face their resettled towns.

That makes me up I think? I can play in the weekend.