Budget

[Curufinwe]

Can someone please tell me how science spends it's money? I'm not sure if this is a good spot to ask so also kindly tell me so if not.

 

[Zur]

Curufinwe:Can someone please tell me how science spends it's money? I'm not sure if this is a good spot to ask so also kindly tell me so if not.

I think they can use it to rush science improvements like libraries and universities. Or maybe to pump up the science rate.

I'm not entirely sure because there there are so many overlaps between departments (eg. libraries increase culture) and it's sometimes hard to tell how decisions (including budgetary) should be taken if >1 departments are involved. The constitution only gives a rough guide.

Maybe there should be a thread outlining which departments should handle cross-departmental decisions and the amount of influence each of the involved departments has in these decisions. This should aim to clear up confusion between departments.

 

[Shaitan]

If there are cross-departmental conflicts they are solved according to the rank in the COC. Science can use their funds to purchase technology also.

 

[Zur]

If there are cross-departmental conflicts they are solved according to the rank in the COC.

This may not be a good system because there could be some decisions where a department represented lower in the COC should have a greater say. eg. Science Department wants to build a library (more urgent since research is boosted immediately) but Domestic want to build a temple (less urgent if happiness is not needed immediately).

 

[Shaitan]

It's working pretty well. The only build conflict would be Governor/Culture/Military/President. In that chain, the farthest to the right wins (but each of them except Governor needs conditions or Council Votes).

The Science Leader doesn't have the power to override a Governor's build queue. They could offer budget for rushing and there aren't too many Gov's who would refuse that.

 

[Civanator]

can the NSD get 100 gold for buying atronomy from a civilization? if not 100 then at least 50?

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Civanator
can the NSD get 100 gold for buying atronomy from a civilization? if not 100 then at least 50?

How much will it cost for us to buy astronomy?

 

[Curufinwe]

it appears to be around 150 gold seeing as science has 100 and is asking for 50 or 100. This still might be short, as I believe to be.

 

[Shaitan]

The Department of Foreign Affairs would like to appropriate funds to rush a library in New Cap City.

 

[donsig]

The domestic department is hosting a poll to accept or reject the proposed budget allocations for the 5/26 turn chat.

Please vote.

 

[donsig]

Accounts at the start of the May 26 turn chat:

Military: 636 gold
Culture: 312 gold
Domestic: 156 gold
NSD: 156 gold

Expenditures during May 26 turn chat:

Miltary: 640 gold (upgraded 10 pikemen and 2 galleys)
Culture: 308 gold (rushed libraries in Tlaxcala and New Cap City)
Domestic: 124 gold (rushed temple in Alexandria)


Saved for next turn chat:

Miltary: none (4 gold over budget)
Culture: 4 gold
Domestic: 23 gold
NSD: 156 gold

Total saved: 192 gold
Amount of treasury to be allocated for next turn chat: 708 gold

Total treasury currently 900 gold.

 

[donsig]

Culture: 432 gold
FA: 28
Military: 180 gold
Trade: 28

Current Accounts are now:

Culture: 436 gold
Domestic: 0 gold
FA: 28 gold
Military: 180 gold
NSD: 156 gold
Trade: 28 gold


I have allocated enough to rush temples in New CAP City and Tlaxcala, and to upgrade 3 pikemen though each department is free use its funds as it sees fit.

 

[Justus II]

I am not sure about the totals, but if you allocated 432 to Culture, why is the balance only 224? I do intend to use the money to rush temples, but I would like to know for sure how much is available. Thanks.

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Justus II
I am not sure about the totals, but if you allocated 432 to Culture, why is the balance only 224? I do intend to use the money to rush temples, but I would like to know for sure how much is available. Thanks.

Oops!

I have fixed the error. The Culture Ministry has 436 gold at its disposal.

 

[donsig]

Military: 180 gold (upgraded 3 pikemen)
Culture: 424 gold (rushed libraries in New CAP City/Plexia and Tlaxcala)
Other: 100 gold to India in the silk deal
Other: 264 gold (market rushed in Heliopolis)

Notes: The 100 gold to India was offset by 37 gold from the Aztecs in the democracy deal. The market place in Heliopolis was rushed in error due to pre-turn chaos and .

So ends term 2. I suggest that all accounts be reset to zero so the term 3 government is not bound by the fiscal crisis created by term 2.

 

[Cyc]

The Province of Kashmir formally requests assistance in the construction of Cultural improvements through the CAP funds.

 

[Justus II]

I would be in favor of this project, once budgets are again assigned.

 

[Curufinwe]

What are the budget's to be now. The CAP program can't run itself you know, needs government money.

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by curufinwe
What are the budget's to be now. The CAP program can't run itself you know, needs government money.

This is under the jurisdiction of the domestic department. Eyrei is the leader and SKILORD is the deputy.

Our treasury is at a much lower level than we are used to and our surplus is not as high as it once was due to increased spending on research.

 

[Curufinwe]

I know that, isn't Eyrei gone? And I'm happy that research is up, just less for culture and military. Well, whenever you get here and allocate the funds, I give you prior thanks.