Bunch of Leader Head Requests

[GigaNerd]

Look, I know this should probably go in the request thread, but I've learned by now that nobody actually looks at the thing anymore.

So, since we got 3 leaders for some civs, 2 for others, and 1 for the majority, why not have all civs have 3 leaders?
EDIT: Forget 3 leaders, how about 5 each?

In the following list, I'll have everybodies name. If there's another name in parenthesis right beside it, then that means this person is more commonly known by this one.

So, here's my list:

WARNING: Big list!

Spoiler :

America:
1. George Washington
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Benjamin Franklin
5. Theodore Roosevelt (Teddy Roosevelt) [For game purposes, Theodore]

Arabia:
1. Saladin
2. Abu Bakr
3. Khalid Ibn Al-Walid
4.
5.

Aztecs:
1. Moctezuma II (Montezuma)
2. Ahuitzotl
3. Itzcoatl
4.
5.

China:
1. Mao Zedong
2. Qin Shi Huang
3. Zhu Yuanzhang Hongwu (Hongwu)
4. Qianlong
5. Sun Tzu

Egypt:
1. Ramesses II
2. Cleopatra VII
3. Khufu
4. Hatshepsut
5. Akhenaten

England:
1. Alexandrina Victoria (Victoria)
2. Elizabeth I
3. Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (Churchill)
4. Arthur Wellesley (Wellington)
5. Richard I (Richard the Lionheart)

France:
1. Napoleon Bonaparte
2. Charles de Gaulle
3. Joan of Arc
4. Louis-Dieudonne (Louis XIV)
5.

Germany:
1. Otto von Bismarck
2. Frederick II
3. Adolf Hitler
4.
5.

Greece:
1. Alexander III
2. Pericles
3. Philip II
4. Pythia
5.

Incas:
1. Huayna Capac
2. Pachacuti Inca Yupanqui (Pachacuti)
3. Manco Capac
4. Tupac Inca Yupanqui (Topa Inca)
5. Capac Yupanqui

India:
1. Mahatma Gandhi
2. Ashoka (Asoka)
3. Shivaji Bhosle
4. Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar (Akbar the Great)
5.

Japan:
1. Tokugawa Ieyasu (Tokugawa)
2. Takeda Shingen
3. Hirohito
4. Toyotomi Hideyoshi
5.

Mali:
1. Kankan Musa (Mansa Musa)
2. Sundiata Keita
3. Abubakari II
4.
5.

Mongolia:
1. Genghis Temujin Khan (Genghis Khan)
2. Ogedei Khan
3. Kublai Khan
4.
5.

Persia:
1. Cyrus II
2. Darius I
3. Xerxes I
4. Achaemenes
5.

Rome:
1. Gaius Julius Caesar (Julius Caesar)
2. Gaius Augustus Caesar Octavianus (Augustus Caesar)
3. Marcus Ulpius Nerva Traianus (Trajan)
4. Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (Scipio Africanus)
5.

Russia:
1. Catherine II
2. Joseph Stalin
3. Peter Romanov I (Peter the Great)
4.
5.

Spain:
1. Isabella I
2. El Cid
3. Ferdinand II
4. Hernando Cortes Pizarro (Cortes)
5. Francisco Pizarro Gonzales (Pizarro)

Carthage:
1. Hannibal Barca
2. Elissa Dido (Dido)
3. Hamilcar Barca
4.
5.

Celtia:
1. Brennus
2. Boudica
3. Vercingetorix
4.
5.

Korea:
1. Wang Geon Taejo (Wang Kon)
2. Yi Sun-Sin (Admiral Yi)
3. Yi Seong-Gye Taejo
4. Sejong Taewang (Sejong the Great)
5.

Ottomans:
1. Mehmed II
2. Sultan Suleiman Khan (Suleiman the Magnificent)
3. Osman Gazi (Osman I)
4. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (Ataturk)
5.

Vikings:
1. Ragnar Lodbrok
2. Canute II
3. Leif Ericson
4.
5.

Zululand:
1. Shaka KaSenzangakhona (Shaka)
2. Mpande KaSenzangakhona (Mpande)
3. Cetshwayo KaMpande (Cetshwayo)
4. Ndlela KaSompisi (Ndlela)
5.

Babylonia:
1. Hammurabi
2. Nebuchadrezzar II (Nebuchadnezzar)
3. Sharru-Kinu (Sargon II) [For game purposes, Sharru-Kinu]
4. Nabopolassar (Naboplasser)
5.

Byzantium:
1. Theodora
2. Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus (Constantine I)
3. Flavius Petrus Sabbatius Iustinianus (Justinian I)
4.
5.

Ethiopia:
1. Zara Yaqob
2. Negus Menelik II (Menelik)
3. Haile Salassie I
4.
5.

Holy Rome:
1. Charlemagne
2. Charles V
3. Peter Leopold Joseph (Leopold II)
4.
5.

Khmer:
1. Suryavarman II
2. Jayavarman VII
3. Indravarman I
4.
5.

Mayas:
1. K’inich Janaab’ Pakal (Pacal II)
2. K’ahk’ Tiliw Chan Yopaat (Cauac Sky)
3. Tecun Uman
4.
5.

Native America:
1. Tatanka Iyotake (Sitting Bull)
2. Hiawatha
3. Makhpiya Luta (Red Cloud)
4. Geronimo
5.

Netherlands:
1. William I (Willem van Oranje)
2. Johan de Witt
3. Abel Janszoon Tasman
4. Maurice (Maurice van Oranje)
5.

Portugal:
1. John II (Joao II)
2. Afonso Henriques
3. Ferdinand Magellan (Magellan)
4. Infante Henrique (Henry the Navigator)
5.

Sumeria:
1. Gilgamesh
2. Ur-Nammu
3. Lugal-Zage-Si (Lugalzaggesi)
4. Sarru-Kin (Sargon I)
5.

Israel:
1. Solomon
2. David
3.
4.
5.

Suggestions taken!

Please consider the idea!!

 

[Uberfrog]

It's odd, as I'd have put Sargon under Sumerian myself, as although he was Akkadian, this was before the Babylonian Empire existed, and with Nebuchadrezzar, Babylon already has a cool potential-second-leader.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Ottomans/Turks could use Kemal Ataturk as a third leader instead of Osman I.

 

[cool3a2]

AFAIK Columbus didn't came from Spain, he was from Italy (Genua). The Spanish only paid him his journey to America. I think he wouldn't be a good spanish leader.

 

[NikNaks]

Apart from a few issues with selection, this is a great idea. Now if we could only find the artists...

 

[GigaNerd]

It's odd, as I'd have put Sargon under Sumerian myself, as although he was Akkadian, this was before the Babylonian Empire existed, and with Nebuchadrezzar, Babylon already has a cool potential-second-leader.

The list said Sargon II, not Sargon I. But if you have other suggestions, I'll consider them!

Ottomans/Turks could use Kemal Ataturk as a third leader instead of Osman I.

Well, if we put Ataturk in, they'd be Turks, not Ottomans. I like the sound of Ottomans better, but I'll put him in anyways!

AFAIK Columbus didn't came from Spain, he was from Italy (Genua). The Spanish only paid him his journey to America. I think he wouldn't be a good spanish leader.

What?? He's not spanish? That sucks..... Anyways, I have limited info sources (the Wikipedia and the CivIII Great Leader list), so he's the only guy I could think of. If you know any sites that can tell me important people from various empires, tell me!

Apart from a few issues with selection, this is a great idea. Now if we could only find the artists...

I've considered making hand drawn pictures for all the leaders (I got a scanner! ), but I'm nowhere near 3D leaderheads.

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Also, I looked at the "choose your civ" screen on the Play Now option, and I noticed that there could be room for 5 leaders before you had to scroll down. What do you think: Go for 5 leaders each?

 

[Uberfrog]

The list said Sargon II, not Sargon I. But if you have other suggestions, I'll consider them!

Right you are. My mistake. Still, Sargon I would be a nice Sumerian leader, but having two Sargons in the game could be confusing. My personal favourtie of the two would be Sargon the Great (I) as second Sumerian leader, with Babylon having old Neb', but that's just me.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Anyways, I have limited info sources (the Wikipedia and the CivIII Great Leader list),

As unreliable as Wikipedia, it would have told you Columbas was an Italian working for the Spanish.

Likewise Wikipedia will be able to point you in the direction of Spanish leaders.

(Ferdinand II ---> Isabella's husband for example)

 

[GigaNerd]

Right you are. My mistake. Still, Sargon I would be a nice Sumerian leader, but having two Sargons in the game could be confusing. My personal favourtie of the two would be Sargon the Great (I) as second Sumerian leader, with Babylon having old Neb', but that's just me.

Actually, the Sargon I's regnal name is Sarru-kin, and Sargon II's regnal name is Sharru-kinu. We could have one under Sargon, and the other under the respective regnal name, and therefor having both in the same game without confusion!

As unreliable as Wikipedia, it would have told you Columbas was an Italian working for the Spanish.

Likewise Wikipedia will be able to point you in the direction of Spanish leaders.

(Ferdinand II ---> Isabella's husband for example)

Actually, the CivIII great leader list said that Columbus was a GL for Spain. That's where I got the idea. Does anyone know really cool spanish leaders?

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I've updated the leader list with some new entries.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Ferdinand II (Isabella's Husband)

Charles I (Charles V of HRE)
Phillip I
etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish_monarchs

from what I have read, their personalities would be similar to Isabella, all Religious maniacs, helbent on converting people.

Francisco Franco from the WWII era is a "popilar choice" and would provide a different gameplay style
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco

lastly, you could always pick a Muslim leader from the Muslim period of spanish history that way your 3 leaders are different.

Or someone who was more of a builder.


1: Christian Nut (Isabella)
2: Facist Leader (Franco)
3: .....

 

[GigaNerd]

Ferdinand II (Isabella's Husband)

Charles I (Charles V of HRE)
Phillip I
etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish_monarchs

from what I have read, their personalities would be similar to Isabella, all Religious maniacs, helbent on converting people.

Francisco Franco from the WWII era is a "popilar choice" and would provide a different gameplay style
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco

lastly, you could always pick a Muslim leader from the Muslim period of spanish history that way your 3 leaders are different.

Or someone who was more of a builder.


1: Christian Nut (Isabella)
2: Facist Leader (Franco)
3: .....

You ignore everything on the list except for Spain. I can tell. I already got Charles I/V for the Holy Romans. Sorry, but I couldn't think up anyone else! If you can give me about 4 other significant Holy Roman Emperors, I might let him go.

I'm now aiming for 5 leaders per civ.

Anyways, I'll go look up the guys you suggested. Thanks!

EDIT: By the way, is El Cid a good choice for Spain? He's the only guy who comes to mind instantly. My brother keeps on rambling on about him. He's an Age of Empires 2 fan.

 

[NikNaks]

I think 4 leaders per empire would be more than enough (you've only managed 5 for Egypt), as there are limited traits. Perhaps the addition of several more traits (like WoL are doing) would help to balance it out significantly.

For a 4th English leader, you could consider a crusader like Richard I (Richard the Lionheart).

I'll do a bit of research this afternoon for you.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Put Charles I/V as a leader of both HRE and Spain?

 

[GigaNerd]

I think 4 leaders per empire would be more than enough (you've only managed 5 for Egypt), as there are limited traits. Perhaps the addition of several more traits (like WoL are doing) would help to balance it out significantly.

For a 4th English leader, you could consider a crusader like Richard I (Richard the Lionheart).

I'll do a bit of research this afternoon for you.

Ya, I have Richard I on there too, but I just haven't updated it yet. I can't update 17 times a day!
Anyways, the more the better!

Put Charles I/V as a leader of both HRE and Spain?

How will that work?
EDIT: Never mind, I found a way!
EDIT 2: Never mind about Edit 1. Why not bring out the bad side of Spain with Francisco Pizarro?

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I'll go update the list. I've added in some more leaders along with the ever-so-popular Israel civ!

EDIT 3: Another update to the list! I got lots of new leaders, including Cortes and Pizarro!