Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
Port, I allow any opinion, I don't agree with you, but my country firmly believes in YOUR right to disagree.
Let me say, WHEN war comes, and it will, it WON'T be the USA killing thousands of Iraqi civillians, SADDAM will do that.
He will try to get as many dead as he can, the way he tried in the Gulf War.
The US won't be randomly dumping Munitions into Baghdad, this isn't WWII, the USA spends BILLIONS on smart munitions to try to AVOID civillian loss.
Look at Afghanistan, the USA was ACCUSED of killing thouisands by bombing, but when the Red Cross and other neutral organizations were able to examine the facts in person, NOT tainted by the Taliban, the lie of it was proven. Yes, several hundred innocents were killed, but again, everything was done to avoid it.
If you fear civillian losses, speak to Saddam, he will be the one doing the killing, and all for your benifit, to gain YOUR voice to his.
I won't comment on the internal matters of which you speak, accept to say you couldn't be more wrong, nobody is cow-towing to big oil (which wants SANCTIONS lifted and relations resumed with Iraq) or the Gun lobby.
Hillary is determined to see the US economy collaspe, so she can ride to the rescue, she is a souless and ruthless woman that has no problem building her career on the bodies of dead Americans.
She TALKS a good game, but she NEVER delivers.
I don't know why people complain about you then
Just commenting some points:
US will sure kill some civilians: it's a war.
Saddam will sure kill more, as he tend s to do that in that kind of situations. He is, of course, much worst than Bush. But it is not difficult to be better than Saddam: a trouble-maker that kill his own and printed more posters of its own than it has inhabitants in his country!!!
Of course US spend much on smart weapons (like in all kind of), but people will die and that is sad. Again, of course Saddam will kill more. But he is a... well, let's just say he wouldn't pass in a psyco exam, to be polite to anyone who likes him...
Tallibans are well known liers. US didn't kill as much as said by them, but this argument seems to say implicitelly that US didn't kill many. 1 is too many, some hundreds is a WAY long after too many. People died and I'm sure none of hus liked that.
I'm sure Iraqui regime will not tell the truth number of victims (as usual), but THERE WILL BE victims and that is the main issue.
The issue here is not the veracity of the named regimes, that pratically don't exist, if there is some.
Saddam should be substituted. The question is why to not just "take him away" (either by killing or just make it leave the place, like US had done in so many places, like Chile)! Why do you have to go with all the army, kill people, destroy infraestructures and spent so many money when you could just spend 0,1% of it and achieve the same result? I fail to understand the point here. Unless of course the point is related to the weapon industry, as said in my previous post.
I really think that thing of the lobbies: they will won with this and they ar behind this moves.
Hillary: I don't know her. Assuming you are right, I just hope you (all the US people) can find someone to dignify with the US presidency. Someone that really deserves it (what by your words Hillary doesn't).
