Can someone incorporate drugs into game??

[Killagram]

Yea I was just wondering about why not incorporating opium, or coca plants and marijuana, amongst other natural (or man-made) drugs, as resources into Civ IV?

Significant events in history have been affected by drugs, such as the Opium Wars, and the U.S. seizure of drug money from Noriega's Panama in the 80's. Pre-9/11, Afghanistan's production of opium had dropped so significantly it was no longer on the U.N.'s watch list due to the hard-line Taliban outlawing it from their religion. However about a month ago, Afghanistan produced about 92% of the world's opium supply, increasing about 32% annually since the invasion of U.S. and British Forces.

Also you could incorporate civics governing the laws of the land concerning drugs and/or alcohol. What would a U.S. be like if it had lax laws like those of Amsterdam? or if it still had Prohibition in effect? or invade Colombia to seize these resources and use spies (CIA anyone?) to administer to other nations, earn a profit, posion the citizens and cost those affected nations a maintenance costs on their anti-drug laws?

What would also be cool would be the creation of DEA-type agents to counter these measures, reducing the maintenance cost of anti-drug laws and bringing more intel on whose countries are these drugs coming from?

Also the resources would be mild stimulants before the introduction of chemistry. Then it would develop into more powerful forms such as cocaine or LSD further causing damage to a nation's opponent. The development of methamphetamines would boost troop strength and/or movement slightly like the Germans did in their Blitzkrieg (and how Hitler was addicted to it), Morphines can have troops have higher WITHDRAW FROM BATTLE points due to its uses in wars such as Vietnam.

hell why not make certain drugs have a small boost to cultural wonders such as Hollywood or Broadway? Many artists (Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, Richard Dreyfus) have done great works while influenced or hungover.

Seizures of Cocaine/Marijuana farms from other countries would be a great loot and great incentive to invade other countries

anyways anyone interested please let me know, I would like to have this option in my superpower to further enslave the rest of the world! MWAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

 

[Stylesrj]

This needs to be moved to suggestions/ideas.

They'll help you out with the drug issue for Civ!

 

[Hakim the Mad]

I'm not a fan of incorporating "drugs" into this mod for several reasons 1)what is a "drug" is a very culturally relativistic term. Coca is not a drug, cocaine is the drug. Coca leaves are chewed and used for quite benign tea throughout the Andes. So because of that there would literally be 100s of things that could be considered drugs including Ergot wheat mold from which the active compounds in LSD are synthesized.

2)Drug use and drug abuse is a very new phenomena like say the last 100 years and is mostly confined to the West and is connected thereby to the prosperity of the west. Therefore how can we assess what the affects of drug production/use should be. Should drugs be considered resources which boost health?
Sidney Mintz has argued that sugar is very close to being a drug in that its trade during the 18th century bears strong similarities to the drug trade of today.

3)Because what is a drug is a cultural concept it is impossible to assess as the above poster did how "significant" drugs have been as historical actors or whether or not they are merely barometers of other things. For example the Opium wars were not really about Opium, Opium merely provided a cause for something that had been brewing for a while and the Noriega example overlooks that this event had more to do with US policy in Central America during the 80s than WHAT noreiga had actually been doing.


This sound like a cute idea but it seems difficult what the effect should be and whether it should be positive or negative for the user or the producer, and since drug abuse is a symptom of wealth it would seem nonsensical to use it to drain anothers economy.