Can you break a trade embargo?

jb1964

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That is, if the AI's sign up for an embargo against you is there any way of breaking it like making peace w/ a civ that has allied against you w/i the last 20 turns?
 
In my game I've been playing, if you sign peace with a nation you are at war with and has an embargo against you, their part of the embargo ends. However, the other civ will still have an embargo (I think).

But, if you wipe them off the earth and take their resources, there's no need to break an embargo. :D
 
If you're not at war with them and they sign an embargo against you the only thing you can do AFAIK is to wait it out 20 turns, or go to war with them and take their resourses like Ginger Ale said
 
Ginger_Ale said:
In my game I've been playing, if you sign peace with a nation you are at war with and has an embargo against you, their part of the embargo ends. However, the other civ will still have an embargo (I think).

That is not correct. When an embargo ends you can deal with both civs again, unless you are at war with one of them or when they have another embargo going. Also: making peace with a civ will not end a trade embargo, unless this embargo was part of a deal including a military alliance against you.

The ways to end the embargo are explained by sabo. But you can also get an MA with one of the tribes vs the other. The state of war between the two wil end the embargo as well.
 
Say civ 1 and civ 2 have an embargo against you.

Get civ 1 to declare war on civ 2, then you can trade with both, it's quite unlikely though, most times you can only trade with 1 (MA).
 
@NewbieHere: Try to use "Civ A", and "Civ B" as much as possible, because I was confused for about a minute thinking that you meant Civ I and Civ II. :crazyeye: ;)
 
Tomoyo said:
@NewbieHere: Try to use "Civ A", and "Civ B" as much as possible, because I was confused for about a minute thinking that you meant Civ I and Civ II. :crazyeye: ;)


:lol: ............... <- ten characters
 
It's interesting that you can bribe a Civ out of a MA or MPP against you but you can't break an embargo w/o a declaration of war.

You should be able to bribe a Civ out of an embargo.

Then again, I think it's too easy to get the AI's to break a MA or MPP.
 
jb1964 said:
It's interesting that you can bribe a Civ out of a MA or MPP against you but you can't break an embargo w/o a declaration of war.

You should be able to bribe a Civ out of an embargo.

Then again, I think it's too easy to get the AI's to break a MA or MPP.

I agree that it's strange that you can't bribe a civ out of a Trade Embargo. But a MPP is not AGAINST someone, but WITH someone. When Civ A and Civ B MPP they promise:

-to declare war on a civ that attacks one of them
-not to get MA's with a third civ against each other

Sadly Civ A and Civ B do NOT promise to keep the peace for 20 turns.

Say you attack Civ A. Civ B will then declare on you because of the MPP. Then later on you make peace with Civ A there is still a MPP. So Civ A will immediately declare on you when you decide to attack Civ B.
 
Aggie said:
Also: making peace with a civ will not end a trade embargo, unless this embargo was part of a deal including a military alliance against you.

Ahh, thanks for clarifying that, I always wondered why it was exactly when I'd make peace with someone and the trade embargo ended.
 
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