* CANADIAN * Chretian animated leader

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Just in case someone wants it, here is a list of the 24 largest Canadian cities:

Ottawa-Capital
Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Quebec
Winnipeg
Hamilton
Kitchener
St.Catherines
Halifax
Victoria
Windsor
Oshawa
Saskatoon
Regina
St. John's
Sudbury
Chicoutimi
Sherbrooke
Barrie
Kelowna

 

[frekk]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.
Other Canadian leaders are:

Tecumseh(War of 1812)
Secord(War of 1812)
Currie(WWI)

I don't consider Riel a Canadian hero as he led an armed rebellion AGAINST Canada. (And was executed)

Also, I think Trudeau would make a better leader for Canada then Chretien.

Let's not forget John A MacDonald (first PM) either. But yeah, Trudeau is the obvious choice, for alot of reasons (presided over modern industrialization of Canada, Trans-Canada Highway, FLQ crisis, multiculturalism, etc etc etc).

Plus there's that famous shot of him giving the finger to reporters which would make for a great angry mood pic. Of course you could always use Chretien's "Shawinigan Handshake" pic for the same thing.

I cannot find an online image of the "Famous Finger" but here is Chretien's "Shawinigan Handshake".

 

[unscratchedfoot]

Originally posted by frekk


yeah, Trudeau is the obvious choice, for alot of reasons (presided over modern industrialization of Canada, Trans-Canada Highway, FLQ crisis, multiculturalism, etc etc etc).

... set the stage for Canada's ballooning debt...etc etc

 

[frekk]

Originally posted by unscratchedfoot


... set the stage for Canada's ballooning debt...etc etc

Probably just taking a cue from southern neighbours there ... seriously, Canadian debt per capita is something a little less than US debt per capita, and it isn't "ballooning" it's gone down in the last decade. US debt went down for a time but its soaring again now.

Here's a comparison in real time:

http://reality.memex.co.uk/staff/acg/java/Counter/debt.html

 

[unscratchedfoot]

is that a geniune site? The US is going up by 10G a second!

As for the comparson, what you're saying is that because the US per capita debt is almost as high as Canada's then what trudeau did was right?

 

[frekk]

Originally posted by unscratchedfoot
is that a geniune site? The US is going up by 10G a second!

As for the comparson, what you're saying is that because the US per capita debt is almost as high as Canada's then what trudeau did was right?

Site's right - you can do more research if you want on it. US debt is insane right now.
And if you'll note the figures are in Canadian and American dollars respectively. Do the conversion and you'll see Canada's pre capita debt is substantially lower - so we did something right. After conversion Canada per capita is well under 20k while US debt is something over 25k ... that's a 20-25% difference ....

 

[unscratchedfoot]

Originally posted by frekk


Site's right - you can do more research if you want on it. US debt is insane right now.
And if you'll note the figures are in Canadian and American dollars respectively. Do the conversion and you'll see Canada's pre capita debt is substantially lower - so we did something right. After conversion Canada per capita is well under 20k while US debt is something over 25k ... that's a 20-25% difference ....

Again, is your point that having an $817 billion dollar debt is perfectly fine as long as another country's debt is higher?

You said "we did something right"
What did Canada do 'right' to get a debt that big? Canada's due for bankruptcy eventually, thanks to trudeau as well as his successors like Clark, Chretian, etc...

 

[frekk]

Originally posted by unscratchedfoot


Again, is your point that having an $817 billion dollar debt is perfectly fine as long as another country's debt is higher?

You said "we did something right"
What did Canada do 'right' to get a debt that big? Canada's due for bankruptcy eventually, thanks to trudeau as well as his successors like Clark, Chretian, etc...

Well, our debt is not that big. Relatively speaking. Most of the Canadian debt is actually just government bonds, ie, it is owed internally - big difference from IMF loans. And you forget to mention the man who really let it 'balloon' - Mulroney. Granted he inheirited it; but he did nothing about it. In fact, he himself never managed a balanced budget for even one year. During Chretien's term, we have seen a return to balanced budgets and the debt has decreased signifigantly.
Anyway, what we did right was not to get the insane amount of debt the US has, without even having the kind of things we got from incurring ours (good roads, public health etc).

Joe Clark? You gotta be joking. He was only in for a few months. I think Kim Campbell was around for longer!

Anyway, to me it's gotta be either Trudeau or John A as a Canadian leaderhead, given the influence of those two (for good or bad) on the country as a whole. William Lyon Mackenzie as well, given his enormous role in the early part of the 20th century and during the war. I don't really see Clark or Chretien really having distinguished themselves in the same way.

Now alot of Albertans and other Westerners would probably like to see "Ralph", a wealthy man famous in the rest of the county only for getting falling-down drunk and assaulting homeless people one Christmas Eve at a shelter, as a Canadian paragon. For them I simply suggest a Prairie civilization and here is a leaderhead for Ralph.

 

[ChickenHawk]

I would love to see a Trudeau Leaderhead aswell.

 

[SoCalian]

Preview?

 

[Praetorian]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.
Just in case someone wants it, here is a list of the 24 largest Canadian cities:

Ottawa-Capital
Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Quebec
Winnipeg
Hamilton
Kitchener
St.Catherines
Halifax
Victoria
Windsor
Oshawa
Saskatoon
Regina
St. John's
Sudbury
Chicoutimi
Sherbrooke
Barrie
Kelowna

A bit hard to believe that Oshawa, Kelowna, Chicoutimi, and Barrie are larger than London!?! Why don't you throw in Petawawa as well. ( bit of Londoner's pride Raised in London, then served with the 1st R.C.R. at Wolsely Barracks)

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Originally posted by Praetorian
A bit hard to believe that Oshawa, Kelowna, Chicoutimi, and Barrie are larger than London!?! Why don't you throw in Petawawa as well. ( bit of Londoner's pride Raised in London, then served with the 1st R.C.R. at Wolsely Barracks)

Actually London is bigger than them. If you want to put them in, I think it goes somewhere near Halifax or Windsor. But there is just one small problem with that...London, ENGLAND. You can only have one of the same city name in the game.
Solution: Don't use English, or capture it yourself :tank:

P.S. - Yes I know there is only 23 cities on that list, there was 24 but I got rid of London on that list because England already has it.

 

[Praetorian]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.


Actually London is bigger than them. If you want to put them in, I think it goes somewhere near Halifax or Windsor. But there is just one small problem with that...London, ENGLAND. You can only have one of the same city name in the game.
Solution: Don't use English, or capture it yourself :tank:

P.S. - Yes I know there is only 23 cities on that list, there was 24 but I got rid of London on that list because England already has it.

Yes I know, I have a tendancy to capture and destroy the English version

 

[WilliamOfOrange]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.


You can only have one of the same city name in the game.
Solution:

Are you sure? I thought that the Iroquois capital Salamanca was also a Spanish city. I have never tried to see if I could rename a city to something that existed, but what about my example?



Oh, and Carrot Top isn't Canadian..how insulting!
Boy, I would love to do this to him: :slay:

 

[Jesus_Christ]

Last year, a friend, under the name of "Ryan Coke" started to make Canadian Leader Heads. Now, a year later, I have come to announce the offical resignation of "Ryan Coke." I know, I know - it took me forever to post this to anybody who wondered where in the heck he has gone!!! So here is the story -
"Ryan Coke" went through some very personal problems over the last year thus, his extended absence. But I, a close friend of his, and old leaderhead partner is starting to get back into business. So watch and wait for my leader heads to burst out into the CFC leaderhead market!!!

 

[uccemebug]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.
Just in case someone wants it, here is a list of the 24 largest Canadian cities:

Ottawa-Capital
Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Quebec
Winnipeg
Hamilton
Kitchener
St.Catherines
Halifax
Victoria
Windsor
Oshawa
Saskatoon
Regina
St. John's
Sudbury
Chicoutimi
Sherbrooke
Barrie
Kelowna

As a native of St. Catharines, I have to point out that the city's name has an 'a', unlike the woman's name.

 

[Dr Corbett]

Heh? That doesn't look ANYTHING like Ralph Klein!

:|

He's also reknowned for managing to make his province into one of the few jurisdictions in the world that doesn't run a deficite. Within two or three years, I hear, their debt will be GONE.

I'd recommend Preston Manning, actually. He's a far better leader. Despite that, I'd warn you that he was never Prime Minister, only ever Leader of the Official Opposition. And I'm partisan towards his cause. Many others wouldn't see it that way.

Look. Your debt is bad.

...

So is ours. The fact that your debt is worse doesn't change the fact that every man, woman, and child now owes twenty thousand dollars US because of someone else's bad decisions.

BTW I'd also point out that Ottawa is only on top because it's a capital -- it'd actually fall very low on that list, as it only has 500,000 people. It has a bit more if you include Hull, but I don't, since it's in another province.