Just curious: how do people play MP in NQ mod? They play with 6 players from all over the world with barbs without any desyncs. Last time we tried it was unplayable in VP
I know that, but the poiint was that barbs are the cause
Do they? I do not participate, but I remember thinking that they played mostly 1v1 on small maps and things like that. I have played several games until finish with barbarians in 2-player games + 4 AI + 12 CS on smaller maps, using VP, with only a few desyncs during the game (mostly during big wars) and nothing game-breaking.
Changing the topic slightly, may I ask if you know why Civilization 5 is so buggy when playing multiplayer? Is it simply badly programmed or something like that? Mods don't really seem to affect it from my experience, we generally have desyncs and crashes regardless of modding or not.
This is one point regarding the barbarians in multiplayer games, what about the other things? e.g. Hunnic UA: defeated Barbarians in camps join you; Aztecs UA: receive gold and faith whenever killing units.
From my observations and from what I gather from these threads Civ 6 is a much better multiplayer environment. This is one place where Civ 6 shines above Civ 5.
That's excellent news, thank you for the heads up. Now we just have to wait for VP in Civ6, before buying it (no problem waiting).
Not sure I agree with that line of thought. Authority is also one of the best social policies in multiplayer without barbarians (arguably the best if you plan on conquering everyone), for me that does not remove the merit of a buff when part of its usefulness is eliminated when barbarians are removed. Exact same thing with the civ UAs, in my opinion.
Which is why I don't get down on Firaxes about Civ VI being brain dead, from a corporate tech support standpoint it's more important to have a stable multiplayer environment then a better AI.
I disagree. I use tradition and progress more than authority in multiplayer, even when conquring. Authority isn't useless, but it's certainly not good enough. It's too slow early with barbs off.
I somewhat understand your position, but I disagree with you as well. Authority is "good enough" in general in my opinion, it just under-performs without barbarians when compared to with barbarians when being unlocked before other trees at the very early game (similar thing with other civ UAs in different situations). Authority has several good things outside of the bonus of culture when killing barbarians, that is just one bonus at the very early game. Authority is not always the best first unlock with policies, I frequently go Progress/Tradition a bit before unlocking Authority as well, it is more reliable.
90% are single player. then I misspoke, My personal experience as a communication software engineer for a major bank (our system had to guarantee delivery of messages passing through) were you get called at 3:00 AM about communication glitches. I can say one thing good AI people are expensive and that I think is the reason for brain dead AI, (the window dressing sells)Sorry, but I disagree 100% for games like civ. I'd stand to bet that 9/10 players play civ single player. If you can't make a competent AI for a turn-based strategy game (where an AI with computational time to spare should shine), you should hire better AI programmers (like me!).
G
That's probably one reason, but when it comes to gameplay it's not as if the AI is the only issue. From my point of view it's as if there's a company policy to not get bogged down in development once all the concepts are pushed. It's only gotten worse since they don't even work with modders like they used to.
