Certain rescources for certain civs?

hievery

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Are certain civs more likely to get, say, iron, than the next one? I swear sometimes I never get iron or coal as certain civs (spanish), and always get it with celts, which I usually play.
 
Since all the resources are placed on the map at the beginning of a game aren't the starting positions of different civs dependent on placement of resources (or vice-versa)? It seems to me that certain civs almost always have a certain kind of resources close to their starting positions, like for instance Indians or Siams have insense or dyes... Am I wrong in my conclusions?
 
I believe there is a code written into the game that gives the civ you are playing a greater chance of starting on a lattitude that roughly corresponds to the historical start of your civ. Of course there are other factors that also affect your starting location. The resource location is mostly random, but obviously oil is place near desert, rubber near jungle, etc.

At least for me, either consciously or unconsciously, I like to start on land that looks like the land I think my civ would have started out on anyway so there is a tendancy to re-roll until you get something that looks good. Example: desert and flood plains if egypt, forests and hills for germany or the celts.

So, if you are always starting near hills as the celts (a more northern lattitude), you have a good chance of getting iron nearby. Spain, would also be more likely to draw a more southern location and this would reduce the chance of iron due to the inherrant terrain of a southerly lattitude.
 
I'll tell you one thing. I've played six straight games as the Greeks (what can I say? I like the Hoplite) and I've gotten Iron in every one of them, but no gunpowder in any of them. Maybe the program takes into account that the Scientific cultures are, in all liklihood, going to get the techs faster, so the system is geared to create an obstacle to that kind of tech imbalance. I don't know. But six straight games is fishy, if you ask me.
 
sealman said:
It is all random.
Or at least it is supposed to be.
Agreed. I think your observations are based on too small a sample. Generate a thousand random map games and see if there's a pattern of resources being linked to specific civs.
 
I think it's just you and your imagination :p It wouldn't be fair if some civs would have better changes to find resources at the start.
 
I think your right, budweiser. I do seem to get incesnse or dyes as all the "injuns"
 
If anyone has done a test or would like to one, I would love to know which civs are most likeley to get iron/coal. Boy do i hate going to war without iron, fighting my way through crowds of MediInfantry with horses and bows....
 
budweiser said:
I believe there is a code written into the game that gives the civ you are playing a greater chance of starting on a lattitude that roughly corresponds to the historical start of your civ. Of course there are other factors that also affect your starting location. The resource location is mostly random, but obviously oil is place near desert, rubber near jungle, etc.

At least for me, either consciously or unconsciously, I like to start on land that looks like the land I think my civ would have started out on anyway so there is a tendancy to re-roll until you get something that looks good. Example: desert and flood plains if egypt, forests and hills for germany or the celts.

So, if you are always starting near hills as the celts (a more northern lattitude), you have a good chance of getting iron nearby. Spain, would also be more likely to draw a more southern location and this would reduce the chance of iron due to the inherrant terrain of a southerly lattitude.

I have never noticed being placed within the same lattitude with certain civs. I think it is all random, and any trends you notice are likely statistically insignificant.
 
wilbill said:
Agreed. I think your observations are based on too small a sample. Generate a thousand random map games and see if there's a pattern of resources being linked to specific civs.


Man I wish I had the time to play a thousand different maps.
 
Rohirrim said:
I'll tell you one thing. I've played six straight games as the Greeks (what can I say? I like the Hoplite) and I've gotten Iron in every one of them, but no gunpowder in any of them.

Yeah..6 is a big number to make such a conclusion.
 
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