ArneHD
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Does Colombia have tanks at all? I can't find anything on it.
Chavez sends tanks to Colombia border in dispute
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Does Colombia have tanks at all? I can't find anything on it.
RedRalph
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Because they just crossed the Ecuadorean border. Try to keep up.
h4ppy
You sir, pineapple?
They crossed the Equadorian border to hunt FARC rebels, if there are none in Venezuela then a border crossing is not going to happen. You try to keep up.
skadistic
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ArneHD
Just a little bit mad
Agarwaen
King
Chávez is loudly supporting the protests of Ecuador.
You don't cross a border with your military without the consent of the other country.
You don't cross a border with your military without the consent of the other country.
general_kill
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It's kind of like what's going on in Pakistan. We struck at terrorists in that country with air strikes without Pakistan's permission. I guess bomb =/= land troops but if Columbia had our kind of air force and intelligence, they probably would have bombed the FARC leader rather than send troops into Ecuador.
Can you imagine if Pakistan acted like Venezuela and sent troops to their border to prevent the U.S. from striking at terrorist targets?
Can you imagine if Pakistan acted like Venezuela and sent troops to their border to prevent the U.S. from striking at terrorist targets?
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
If it would come to a shooting war, Colombia would demolish them.
h4ppy
You sir, pineapple?
Imagine how their government would collapse after we cut off support for them?
MobBoss
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If you are getting attacked from within a neighboring country and that country wont do anything about it, you have an obligation to protect your citizenry. If that means crossing a border to destroy a rebel camp, then so be it.
My friends, hasn't the U.S. recently sent part of its military (to join the citizen militia lawnchairbourne brigade, the Minutemen) to its border to defend against incursion from Colombians (and others)? Chavez is fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.
Agarwaen
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They should at least tried to get the approval from Ecuador, if they explicitly defended the FARC leader, them they could do something. The way it was done Colombia just ignored the border.
RedRalph
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what you basing that on? I know Columbia gets a lot of Us aid, but Venezuela outspends them by quite a bit in the military. I dont think either side would "demolish" the other. Care to tell why you assume Columbia would win so easily?
holy king
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and i just want them to lose because chavez is a bad man because
a) he is a communist.
b) he said bad things about mr. bush.
a) he is a communist.
b) he said bad things about mr. bush.
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Can mods get infractions for trolling too?
Here, do some reading -- it'll do you good!
Colombia spends about three to four times as much and has three times the number of active personnel.
I'm with you. Terrorists and mass murderers should have no safe haven. If the terrorist-loving governments of Venezuela and Ecuador want to give them shelter, they should exepect their sovereignity to be violated.
That said, I sincerely hope that no war will come between Colombia and Venezuela (and I also believe that it will never come to that). The venezuelan people already suffer too much under the clown Chávez, a massive military defeat (which would be the only possible outcome of war against Colombia) would be too much for even a people as resignated to suffering as the venezuelans.
Maybe the fellas here who are sympathetic to Chávez and his palls of the FARCs should have a family member kidnapped and starved to near-death, as the FARCs are doing with Ingrid Betancourt and countless others? Would that change their worldview, I wonder.
holy king
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Maybe the fellas here who are sympathetic to Chávez and his palls of the FARCs should have a family member kidnapped and starved to near-death, as the FARCs are doing with Ingrid Betancourt and countless others? Would that change their worldview, I wonder.
that smiley in the end is hillarious... but it just doesnt sound any nicer because of it, really...
jroa99
Warlord
Ecuador has been acting far more rationally than Venezuela during this situation, to say the least, though there are some similarities on the surface.
Colombia shouldn't have crossed the border with Ecuador, though I can definitely understand why it was done and shed no tears for Mr. "Raúl Reyes".
As for any hypothetical war...Colombia doesn't have tanks, no, but frankly it doesn't really need them. Colombia, as a whole, isn't "tank country" and any Venezuelan incursion could only go so far...misleading early success would lead to problems later on.
Still, I don't believe (or at least I hope so) that a war will erupt.
His "success" has been rather overestimated...especially because all he has obtained are "gestures" (that's how FARC refers to those hostage liberations) from the guerrillas directed at himself (and Colombian senator Córdoba), on a personal level...that's no real sign of an "agreement" between the parties yet.
Colombia shouldn't have crossed the border with Ecuador, though I can definitely understand why it was done and shed no tears for Mr. "Raúl Reyes".
As for any hypothetical war...Colombia doesn't have tanks, no, but frankly it doesn't really need them. Colombia, as a whole, isn't "tank country" and any Venezuelan incursion could only go so far...misleading early success would lead to problems later on.
Still, I don't believe (or at least I hope so) that a war will erupt.
His "success" has been rather overestimated...especially because all he has obtained are "gestures" (that's how FARC refers to those hostage liberations) from the guerrillas directed at himself (and Colombian senator Córdoba), on a personal level...that's no real sign of an "agreement" between the parties yet.
