Christianity and Islam

[Keshik]

And I don't think that there's any specific rivalry between christians and muslims. It's just an optical illusion.

This is probably right.

 

[Princeps]

I think the whole "war between religions" is an illusion as stated by Aaglo.

Wars are caused by often more earthly reasons; people want power. People will fight if they feel threatened - warmongers exploit that inherent instict.

 

[Quasar1011]

I think that Jesus is not a prophet for Christians. And I don't think that there's any specific rivalry between christians and muslims. It's just an optical illusion.

Oh, Jesus is definitely a prophet to Christians.

Moses, writing about Jesus in Deuteronomy 18:15
"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him."

Jesus, referring back to Moses' writings in John 5:46
"If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me."

What the heck does that mean? What happens when Judaism comes to complete fullness?

World peace.

 

[Bad Player]

Oh, Jesus is definitely a prophet to Christians.

Um, no. (I'm not sure if you're being heretical here or I'm just misunderstanding you but as I said before Christians believe that Jesus is God which is much more than just a prophet (I am a Christian btw)).

 

[Xenocrates]

Quasar, you're lol-ing me out here.

You know when people quote a little too often from a favourite film or know every detail about Star Trek? That's the way I feel about people who quote scripture.

You're a Jesus Trekie!

 

[aaglo]

Oh, Jesus is definitely a prophet to Christians.

Moses, writing about Jesus in Deuteronomy 18:15
"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him."

Jesus, referring back to Moses' writings in John 5:46
"If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me."

Oh, yeah. The old testament. Forgot about that... but Jesus wasn't a prophet like Moses: you see, Jesus was a son of god, while Moses wasn't.

 

[Kozmos]

Because the Invisible hand made it so. I know who they are. They are the Ill*gets shot*

 

[aaglo]

Because the Invisible hand made it so.

It?
So, it is an invisible hand job ?

 

[Tenochtitlan]

The problem stems from the deeply rooted idea that everybody else is absolutely wrong. I don't know about Christianity but in Islam there is a strong concept of mob mentality, even between different sects.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

I think the whole "war between religions" is an illusion as stated by Aaglo.

Wars are caused by often more earthly reasons; people want power. People will fight if they feel threatened - warmongers exploit that inherent instict.

This is true. People who categorize themselves and practice othering are very susceptible to the dangers of war profiteers

 

[Stapel]

why is it there a rivalry between islam and christianity. there extremely similar i mean look at the specs

The rivalry is merely between nonsecularism and secularism. Before the western world decided to seperate religion form state matters, there was rivalry between the various types of Christianity. Not just rivalry, but war.

 

[Stolen Rutters]

What the heck does that mean? What happens when Judaism comes to complete fullness?

World peace.

Hey, I like World peace. I never really understood that particular part of evangelical thought. Trying to return Israel and Jerusalem to the Jews to fulfill a prophecy and hasten the end times and the final judgement.

The movies always spin the end times as armageddon (read death and destruction) so why would we want to bring that along any faster?

 

[puglover]

why is it there a rivalry between islam and christianity. there extremely similar i mean look at the specs

both to some extent have jeueslem as a holy city

both have holy prophets, muhhamed, jesus

both began in the middle east

jesus is a prophet for both of them

both are huge religions cristianity 2bil islam 1.5 bil

are on a rush to convert everyone

no offense meant to either religion i am cristian

The Muslims don't believe Jesus is God, or that he died to purify us from sin. That is an absolutely huge division. Plus, Islam is an Arab-centered religion. Why do you think Mohammed rewrote the Old Testament so Ishmael would be almost sacrificed instead of Isaac?

Catholics and Protestants on the other hand have a lot in common, and really should accept one another as fellow Christians instead of fighting.

 

[Quasar1011]

Oh, yeah. The old testament. Forgot about that... but Jesus wasn't a prophet like Moses: you see, Jesus was a son of god, while Moses wasn't.

Um, no. (I'm not sure if you're being heretical here or I'm just misunderstanding you but as I said before Christians believe that Jesus is God which is much more than just a prophet (I am a Christian btw)).

I agree that Jesus is God. But Jesus is also prophet; in fact, Jesus is THE Prophet:

Matthew 13:57
And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."

Matthew 21:11
The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee."

Luke 24:20
"About Jesus of Nazareth," they replied. "He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him;

John 6:14
After the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus did, they began to say, "Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world."

 

[Mott1]

This mostly occurred due to a variety of events: the Reconquista, obviously the Crusades, the Ottoman expansion, and later, the Western carving up of the Middle East. It's mostly political hatred that got translated into the cultural aspects of those societies.

Really? Explain then the reason these ideologies clashed prior to the events you listed above. What did Zoroastrians do that warrented the hate and wrath of Islam? What did the Hindus do that provoked the conflict that exists today with Islam?