City Name Maps

[AbsintheRed]

My contribution to the French names!
Inconsistencies typos etc ironed out, names in Spain, Italy and the holy land still in need of work.

PS: I reckon English map needs a revision especially Wales.

Great!
Also, I attached the english, dutch, genoan and venezian maps to the 3rd post...

 

[Sian]

So you will start to improve the norse map with merging those 3?

sadly unable to, since my primary computer (the one with Civ on) deciminated the HD so it can't boot outside failsafe

 

[Morholt]

Swedish and Norse maps - merged, extended and synched with the Poland/Lithuania maps.

If noone is doing Germany at the moment I can synch that map as well in the Poland/Lithuania region.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Everyone is free to update to all the maps, at any time
Even if it's just a 2-3 name corrections. Just be sure that you edit the latest uploaded version of the given map.
I think noone is doing a bigger work on Germany right now, so you are free to go

 

[AbsintheRed]

sadly unable to, since my primary computer (the one with Civ on) deciminated the HD so it can't boot outside failsafe

No prob, as you can see Morholt just finished doing this
Thanks anyway

Swedish and Norse maps - merged, extended and synched with the Poland/Lithuania maps.

If noone is doing Germany at the moment I can synch that map as well in the Poland/Lithuania region.

Great work again

 

[Morholt]

..and the German map synched as well.

 

[Michael Vick]

Here are greatly expanded French and Italian maps. Both are 100% synchronized.

Italian map was expanded in Provence, the Holy Land, Mediterranean islands, and major indy cities on the Mediterranean coast. Also, there are now Italian names for the Atlantic Access cities. (Tangeri, Cadice, Siviglia, Lisbona)

French map was expanded to include every single tile in Catalonia and Navarre, all of Italy, Mediterranean islands, major indy cities, the Holy Land including Rhodes, and major indy cities. I leave you to decide between any of the discrepancies ( I don't know where they all are) between this map and that of Voyelles.

Note: I read the discussion about latin names in Crusader cities but it's French and Italian in these maps, so they might need to be edited there as well as in North Africa.

@AbsintheRed, it is suggested that another post eventually be provided with the approved files of new maps all in one place. That way, nobody will overlook work already done and begin work on one of the old maps.

I'm going to look at Morholt's German map and expand that where I can. Is the final consensus that Holy land names should be in Latin?

 

[AbsintheRed]

This is awesome guys!
Keep working at this rate

I leave you to decide between any of the discrepancies ( I don't know where they all are) between this map and that of Voyelles.

Everyone should base their changes on the latest map availeable.
If you say you more or less merged in those/covered all the areas, it's good for me

Note: I read the discussion about latin names in Crusader cities but it's French and Italian in these maps, so they might need to be edited there as well as in North Africa.

I can easily update those parts, if we decide to have the same latin name for all civs

@AbsintheRed, it is suggested that another post eventually be provided with the approved files of new maps all in one place. That way, nobody will overlook work already done and begin work on one of the old maps.

The first posts will be updated every few days to have the latest maps.
So you will only have to check the end of this thread: if someone else is working on the map right now or uploaded a new version recently you should use that version, otherwise the first post will be up-to-date

 

[Michael Vick]

This is awesome guys!
Keep working at this rate



Everyone should base their changes on the latest map availeable.
If you say you more or less merged in those/covered all the areas, it's good for me



I can easily update those parts, if we decide to have the same latin name for all civs



The first posts will be updated every few days to have the latest maps.
So you will only have to check the end of this thread: if someone else is working on the map right now or uploaded a new version recently you should use that version, otherwise the first post will be up-to-date

Finished merging Morholt's German with the French Map! As of now, the French, German, and Italian civ maps are completely reconciled. Here is the German map and the new French map.

 

[Voyelles]

Finished merging Morholt's German with the French Map! As of now, the French, German, and Italian civ maps are completely reconciled. Here is the German map and the new French map.

It appears my contribution has got lost inamidst all this merging. I'll try and re-instate it tonight.
Also, the Burgundian map should be the same as the French one.

Finally, use dashes with composite French names, with the exception of "Le X" or "St X". So "Mont-de-Marsan", but "St Malo".

 

[Morholt]

Here's a v2 of my Poland map. This one is synched also against Hungary (and the German/Austrian map I made)

 

[Morholt]

And here's a Genoan map based on Michael Vick's Italian map, with names translated to Ligurian where applicable. The capital of Genoa is now "Zena".

 

[AbsintheRed]

It appears my contribution has got lost inamidst all this merging. I'll try and re-instate it tonight.
Also, the Burgundian map should be the same as the French one.

Finally, use dashes with composite French names, with the exception of "Le X" or "St X". So "Mont-de-Marsan", but "St Malo".

I agree, French and Burgundy can use totally same maps.
Sry if your changes got lost, please improve Micheal Vick's version from his last post.
But you should also sync your changes with the other maps he made

Here's a v2 of my Poland map. This one is synched also against Hungary (and the German/Austrian map I made)

The Hungarian map is still WIP by me, so there will be some further syncronizing needed in both maps when I'm ready

And here's a Genoan map based on Michael Vick's Italian map, with names translated to Ligurian where applicable. The capital of Genoa is now "Zena".

Cool. So right now Micheal Vick's italian map should be used for Venezia, and this one for Genoa, right?
I will make an update to the first posts, after Voyelles reuploaded his changes

 

[Kartoffelvampir]

We use native names for all civs.

Great, that settles this. Propably still having to use latin names in North Africa or the northern Balkan, though - finding the greek names there can be a female dog.

Finished merging Morholt's German with the French Map! As of now, the French, German, and Italian civ maps are completely reconciled. Here is the German map and the new French map.

@Michael Vick:
Please stay on just synchronizing the map, and not reworking them. You changed a great deal (way more than necessary) in the German Map, which is Daffy and I came to an agreement only shortly, and to be honest, i don't like most of the changes (Hamburg not on the coast? Seriosly?) Since the german map can be a touchy subject, please don't change things in your one here.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Great, that settles this. Propably still having to use latin names in North Africa or the northern Balkan, though - finding the greek names there can be a female dog.

Yeah, I was afraid of that.
Are you sure that having mixed latin and greek names better than having latin names everywhere?

@Michael Vick:
Please stay on just synchronizing the map, and not reworking them. You changed a great deal (way more than necessary) in the German Map, which is Daffy and I came to an agreement only shortly, and to be honest, i don't like most of the changes (Hamburg not on the coast? Seriosly?) Since the german map can be a touchy subject, please don't change things in your one here.

Rework the parts you dislike, but try to get to an agreement after a few updates on both sides (like you did with Daffy)
If neither sides can settle on a final name, I will make the final call on it (but don't really want to get this deep on all the civs city names where it's not necessary)
Also, keep in mind with every change you make, that syncronizing is important. So you have to think of all the other civs too - and improve their maps

 

[Opera]

Wait, why no dash for Saint-Malo? It *is* written with a dash...

 

[Voyelles]

Wait, why no dash for Saint-Malo? It *is* written with a dash...

Indeed, it is a style guide issue. I think on consideration saint names should have dashes, but cities with le- or la- shouldnt.

So St-Malo, but Le Havre.

How does this sound?

 

[Opera]

Good. That's actually how they are spelt on maps, signs and all, so that works.

 

[AbsintheRed]

I'm going for the byzantine map, and will also do the ottoman map as well.
Since greek was the language for most of the middle ages, I wanted to use greek city-names (in modern transliteration) instead of latin ones, but i'm not sure if this is popular.
If you guys don't like it, please tell me (only don't spam this thread), I would go with the latin names.
If no one says anything, i'm going to use greek names.

I slighly prefer latin over greek, even if it's a little ahistorical.
But if the majority of the people here want greek, that's also fine with me

We use native names for all civs.

Great, that settles this. Propably still having to use latin names in North Africa or the northern Balkan, though - finding the greek names there can be a female dog.

Yeah, I was afraid of that.
Are you sure that having mixed latin and greek names are better than having latin names everywhere?

Any thoughts on this?

 

[Michael Vick]

Great, that settles this. Propably still having to use latin names in North Africa or the northern Balkan, though - finding the greek names there can be a female dog.




@Michael Vick:
Please stay on just synchronizing the map, and not reworking them. You changed a great deal (way more than necessary) in the German Map, which is Daffy and I came to an agreement only shortly, and to be honest, i don't like most of the changes (Hamburg not on the coast? Seriosly?) Since the german map can be a touchy subject, please don't change things in your one here.

My apologies, it was a compromise since the French map was radically different. The German map is a bit controversial, especially that Hamburg-Bremen area down to Braunschweig, Paderborn, etc. The other changes I made were more agreeable, I think, removing cities such as Soest? Havelburg? The Strasbourg to Freiburg area was also a mess, but I think I reached a conclusion that makes the most sense. The map took forever, I don't want to go back to the original German map that was pretty unorganized in the Western edges. I changed nothing East of Schwerin. It probably should be discussed further before the Dutch and Spanish maps are made for the area, I'll hear the arguments. Hamburg on the coast? I don't know about that one, I think that AbsintheRed should hear more opinions on that than our own. Tell me in detail everything else you thing is wrong about the map.

@Voyelles, please make any spelling changes you think are necessary.