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City names,
I don't know if citynames are spelled wrong for all civilizations, but the Germans have a few:

  1. It's HeidelbErg, not HeidelbUrg
  2. Konigsberg (ö) is not a German city (anymore)
  3. Salzburg is an Austrian city.
  4. Brandenburg is not a city, it's a 'Bundesland' (Province/State)
  5. a lot more, but I couldn't think of it at the moment.
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Originally posted by willemvanoranje:
City names,
I don't know if citynames are spelled wrong for all civilizations, but the Germans have a few:

  1. It's HeidelbErg, not HeidelbUrg
  2. Konigsberg (ö) is not a German city (anymore)
  3. Salzburg is an Austrian city.
  4. Brandenburg is not a city, it's a 'Bundesland' (Province/State)
  5. a lot more, but I couldn't think of it at the moment.
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  1. You're quite fussy
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    Forgive Sid some mistakes, for everything else is perfect, you know.
    BTW, Salzbourg is Austrian but I think it used to be german once. And as the Germans often steal Austrian things, including their national anthem...


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Complaining that Konigsberg and so on is not a German city is like complaining that Londinium is not a Roman city--it's an English city, and it's actually spelled "London". In other words, yes that's true now, but they're taking a more historical perspective on it. The Civs in the game aren't frozen at the state their real-life counterparts were in at the time the game was made. It's more dynamic and takes past centuries into account.

And yes, I believe there is a city of Brandenburg, within the state of Brandenburg, near Berlin.

[This message has been edited by Loaf Warden (edited April 03, 2001).]
 
On that topic ...

Edo and Tokyo are different names for the same city. ...

Cologne is the French, then English spelling of Koln (this must irk German players of the game!) ...

Alexandria (of the Egyptian civilization) was founded by Alexander, and was therefore more Greek/Hellenistic than Egyptian ...

The Greeks weren't too fond of Troy ...

Indus and Ganges are rivers, not cities ..

And so forth, and so on. ... .

Ah, well. ...


 
Well, I'm not really complaining, at least, that's not what I want to do. And I am one of those German players (I'm half German).
Nuremberg = Nürnberg
But I care about it. There are enough cities, so why do they give them such names? And Salzburg has never been GERMAN, except for 1938-1945. Sure, it was in the same empire, but that was together with other countries (France).

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Well, if anything really annoys me about this game are two mistakes in the tech tree:

1) Writing predates the alphabet.

2) Gunpowder led to Cannons; Metallurgy led to Muskets. (Advances in metallurgy allowed the development of the trigger/firing mechanisms that allowed the development of small arms).

And your right about Heidelberg; they definitely shouldn't have misspelled that one!
 
I think it's really annoying that the city names are "translated" to English
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Especially the Italian and German cities:
Naples should be Napoli, Turin Torino, Venice Venezia and Munich München, etc. I've made a bad habit of correcting these names
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And every enemy city I take gets immediately a new name, that fits in with my other cities.
 
Think about the poor Sioux. They get their cities named after NA battles and stuff.
 
I think it would add a lot to the game if the developers would actually put all the city names in their own spelling. Maybe this would result in in incomprehensible names for Zulu settlements, but so be it
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I agree. But I remember someone talling me off when I said that in another thread (I believe in the Civ 3 suggestions)

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I know that the viking city Hladir should be Haldir.

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It bugs me that the Chinese city names are a mixture of romanization systems... if they have "Xinjian", they should have "Tianjin" in place of "Tientshin," etc.

But you know, if you don't like the default names, you can change them, or add new ones, in the CITY.TXT file.

(As with any change to Civ2 files, make a backup first.)
 
Originally posted by RR_Aquilae:
I think it's really annoying that the city names are "translated" to English <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/mad.gif" border=0> Especially the Italian and German cities:
Naples should be Napoli, Turin Torino, Venice Venezia and Munich München, etc. I've made a bad habit of correcting these names <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0> And every enemy city I take gets immediately a new name, that fits in with my other cities.

Geez, I always thought they were talking about Naples, Florida. (Just kidding.)

I entirely agree: names should be spelt in their native language. The exception, of course, is with the ancient civilizations: i.e., for the Greeks and Romans, Napoli = Neapolis.
 
As I said before in the other thread, the names of the cities are spelled correctly according to the conventions of the language in which the game is installed. If you play the game in English, you get the English spellings. Play it in German, and you get the German spellings. Yes, I hope more languages are available in Civ III. But it would be excessively didactic of them to insist on spelling every city name the way it is spelled in its native language regardless of the language the game is installed in. Next I suppose you're going to insist that Russian city names be spelled in Cyrillic, and Chinese city names be written in full Chinese, because after all, they don't write their city names in the Latin alphabet in these countries. This is where such didacticism would logically lead. After all, why insist on correctness only for those Civs who happen to use the Latin alphabet? Wouldn't that be unfair? If we want to be so correct, we must be that correct all around.

But as always, if you don't like the way they do it, you can change it yourself. You can name your cities Cowtown and Gotham City if you want to, and it won't make a whit of difference.
 
Time to take a step a back here ...

Just guessing, but Civilization has created a multinational community. It was not a part of the original plan, but it is now a reality.Therefore, Civ3 should recognize the multinational community of gamers it has created, and do its damnedest with giving credit where credit is do (with spellings) of all civilizations in their historical/native tongues (insofar as it is "ascii" compliant {???}).

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Well, I think that Oslo should be a Viking city. According to the saga of Snorre, Harold Hardraade founded the city of Oslo around year 1000. And Harold Hardraade was a Viking king, right.

Håkan Eriksson: Aah, that explained the Hladir problem. I've been wondering which city it should have been.

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Originally posted by Håkon:
Håkan Eriksson: Aah, that explained the Hladir problem. I've been wondering which city it should have been.



Nice to be able to help someone
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About the German cities. Konigsberg was once part of Prussia(Germany), during the time of the two given tribe leaders. That's why Konigsberg is there. Salzburg is in Austria a German speaking country. Brandenburg was once a city, it was renamed, I forget what. My German teacher told us about stuff like this. About the umlaut in Konigsberg, they probably just didn't feel like adding it in there, because it might confuse the people that don't know what it means and also because it's not in the English language(over an 'o' it should be spelled 'oe' without the umlaut, like in English)

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my first city will always be called "Capital"

if i move my capital.. well it get's renamed..

then i name them on geographic location so i can find them faster

the first letter , N,S,E,W
north south east or west

so like.. if it a northern seaside..

Nseaside

or northern mountiness place

Nrocky or something..

a passage.. Npassage

and so on..

if it makes a good bridge between water masses, it get's called C , and if there is more than one, it C1 , C2 , C3, ect..


then there are not novelty city names... like
Nuke The Whales! *whales*
Buffalo Wings! *buffalo*
Fishheads! *fish*

and a bunch others

i usssaly don't rename captured civ citys unless i have to



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