city names ?

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Where did they get their city names from? what kind of weird humor do they have?

One of the dutch cities is called "Holwerd", i never heard of it, but it appears to exist. Most likely it is not big or anything, but who knows maybe it might have been in the dark ages or something (which would be a good reason to include it in civ).

Now however i have a city called "Nieuwe Ruimtevreemdheid" Translated that means "New Space Oditty".
I definately had never heard of a city with THAT name. Looking it up in google (the dutch version) gave me 0 results, which makes me pretty confident it doesn't exist.

This really is an oddity (vreemdheid)......
 
Holwerd is a very small village.

"New Space Oddity" sounds like something from LotR13.

EDIT: I've heard stories about "Not Constantinople"
 
The thing that makes me kinda mad is the Americans have Tampa Bay, it should be just Tampa. Tampa Bay isn't the name of the city it an area that covers St. Petersburg and Tampa, but at least they have the name Tampa
 
And the greeks have a city named Apolyton. The Vikings have Thunderfall....Hmmm....no idea where they got those. :lol:

Actually, I've been curious on this myself. Wondering if they have a full time research person on staff, or some lucky programmer got to run it down....
 
I'm not sure they even look at real maps ; I think they look at cities with travel facilities. Like "Hey, last year I went to the Netherlands, and I took the ferry, it was so cool, from a town named Lauwersoog", and bam, you've got Lauwersoog in the game.

And then they persist in writing Lyons and Rheims when it's Lyon and Reims. I've looked up in english dictionnaries ; these cities are spelled Lyon and Reims in English.
Oh well, at least they've corrected it in the French version of the game. :)
 
Masquerouge said:
I'm not sure they even look at real maps ; I think they look at cities with travel facilities. Like "Hey, last year I went to the Netherlands, and I took the ferry, it was so cool, from a town named Lauwersoog", and bam, you've got Lauwersoog in the game.

And then they persist in writing Lyons and Rheims when it's Lyon and Reims. I've looked up in english dictionnaries ; these cities are spelled Lyon and Reims in English.
Oh well, at least they've corrected it in the French version of the game. :)

Basically all cities use their English names in the game (even if you can call Lyon and Reims just that in English, the other names are the English versions). German cities for instance, Munich, Cologne, Nuremberg etc. I don't really mind that, but I agree that when some horse **** dump on the map get's the nod over a larger, historically important city, you start wondering if they did any research at all.

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I wonder if Space Oddity had something to do with the Dutch translation of the city names.
However, for odd names there are two reason:
1) Sloppy beta testers - it really needs native speakers to find spelling errors, missing cites etc
2) Weird sense of humor. I'd guess they had been told a gazillion times about Rheims, Lyons, Heidelburg and Richtoffen (and L'Emereur, more recently...), but they seem to insist on that stupidities :lol:
 
Perhaps one of their girlfriends or family comes from a small town in Europe or they ask some native friends. I mean if the put Thunderfall and Apolyton as cities it's a good hint their on a good mood...
With Call to Power they had spanish cities with names of small villages surrounding Madrid!! Even we here hadn't heard of them! you had to look them up in a map and had no importance whatsoever. I guess it was just an vreemdheid.

there's a CFC member, deity player with the name space oddity, hmmm... groucho

http://forums.civfanatics.com/member.php?u=2666
 
In LotR13, they used CFC SGers as city names. IIRC there was a city named "a space oddity".
 
Tomoyo said:
Holwerd is a very small village.

"New Space Oddity" sounds like something from LotR13.

EDIT: I've heard stories about "Not Constantinople"

"Not Constantinople" is an Ottoman city, and I've founded it :)

(now if anyone can get a genuine screen grab of a game with Ottomans and Byzantium where "Constantinople" and "Not Constantinople" are next door to each other....)

Neil. :cool:
 
Yes, in the American cities, Los Angeles, the 2nd most populous city in the USA should be about 5th or so (after historically important cities such as Philadelphia and New York). But it is about 15-20th when you build cities (I am not sure exactly.) Also, Charlotte, a rather large city should be on the list (it has more than 1 million people.)
 
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