City-states razing other city-states.

[Scaramanga]

Nonsense. The game could easily have been designed differently. In fact, it's quite simple. "If city state or original capital, liberate. Else, raze." There, I wrote the new "city state conquers a city" logic.

You can't liberate a city that is still under original ownership so a city state that captures a city state or capital from the original owner has no choice but to raze, it can't keep it.
If a city state liberated a former city state or capital under foreign occupation then they would just be serving the city on a platter to someone else since it would be so weak.

 

[bbufa]

- CS always razes other CS => make CS quite "passive", weak in military and border expanding. Many times their units only run around, wait to be kill, and at last that CS is conquered.
- CS can't capture a capital => make the bad AI becomes worse, CS may send a lot of unit to a capital, commit suicide by attacking a zero-health city, until the CS itself becomes too weak and be conquered by other civ... The better way is: its suzerain immediately get the conquered capital, which can be returned or annexed in peace deal.

 

[Scaramanga]

- CS always razes other CS => make CS quite "passive", weak in military and border expanding. Many times their units only run around, wait to be kill, and at last that CS is conquered.
- CS can't capture a capital => make the bad AI becomes worse, CS may send a lot of unit to a capital, commit suicide by attacking a zero-health city, until the CS itself becomes too weak and be conquered by other civ... The better way is: its suzerain immediately get the conquered capital, which can be returned or annexed in peace deal.

I'm 80% sure capitals cannot be returned.

 

[Victoria]

To aviod
1. Make peace with egypt before
2. Levy the city state troops that would kill it and use them to capture it
Point 2 is far more preferable and levying has always been under valued

I'm 80% sure capitals cannot be returned.

They can be once they are fully loyal. You cannot give/sell them to anyone else but they can be returned to their rightful (original) owner. The game keeps track of this.

 

[Scaramanga]

To aviod
1. Make peace with egypt before
2. Levy the city state troops that would kill it and use them to capture it
Point 2 is far more preferable and levying has always been under valued


They can be once they are fully loyal. You cannot give/sell them to anyone else but they can be returned to their rightful (original) owner. The game keeps track of this.

I was playing the Switch version, so Standard Rules, and I don't think i could return Washington to Roosevelt. I'll watch out for it again.

 

[Victoria]

and I don't think i could return Washington to Roosevelt.

I could not either until I worked out it needs full loyalty so it takes a few turns after capture to do so if you did not do so in the peace deal.

 

[Scaramanga]

Nonsense. The game could easily have been designed differently. In fact, it's quite simple. "If city state or original capital, liberate. Else, raze." There, I wrote the new "city state conquers a city" logic.

There's also the problem that you are at war with two civs, A and B. A has captured B's capital and your city state manages to capture it. They liberate it to B and then immediately start trying to take from B because they are at war.

 

[Halcyan2]

I remember this. Happened to me only once in over 5000 hrs of gameplay. Cool as hell

I did this all the time in Civ V.

Due to the severe warmonger penalty for wiping out a Civ, you just had to manipulate the situation so an AI or a City State would take the final city of your enemy. As a result, I often fed cities to my City State allies.

 

[Bibor]

I did this all the time in Civ V.

Due to the severe warmonger penalty for wiping out a Civ, you just had to manipulate the situation so an AI or a City State would take the final city of your enemy. As a result, I often fed cities to my City State allies.

I personally found it easier to just raze cities