mintyfreshdeath
Warlord
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I wouldn't criticise people's spelling if I were you
civ 3 players will not move on
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I wouldn't criticise people's spelling if I were you
I don't know how I can take you as an adult when you lack basic capitalization, grammar, and punctuation in your posts. Your arguments are pretty bad too, it mades the double-whammy.
Civ IV graphics look like they're made for five year olds. If you want proof, look at one leaderhead. Look at the moving resources. Seriously, moving resources? I don't need to be eye-entertained every 2 seconds to enjoy the game. Another step by Firaxis to dumb down Civ to the lowest possible level.
False. Civ IV graphics look terrible and not constructed well. They're made to look cool to a younger generation. Civ III's are better for an epic game, which Civ is. Civ IV's look good for a smaller game, but Civ is not designed to be a small game.
A problem.
Easily modded in.
I don't see how this is a problem. Does pollution not exist in real life?
Easily modded in.
The religion concept, while a good idea is not well implemented. All the religions are the same, and they all have the same effects. They're a good concept but not well implemented. I don't have much experience with the corporations, so I can't comment on them.
Good, great people is a broken concept that gives an unfair advantage to a human player vs. the AI.
Same resources. There's actually more in Civ III.
False. Units in Civ III are more balanced.
That, I must admit, is a bad thing. Easily implemented with modding though.
I wouldn't say that. Civ IV's is so bad that they had to bring back Civ III music.
True. That's one thing.
Don't kid yourself.
I'd rather have no wonder movies than that half-ass job from Firaxis with the Civ IV wonder movies. Have you ever seen anything so bland?
Pretty realistic. How many times do you see a squadron of cannon beating a squadron of tanks?
Why would you want to do that?
You would live in a cave in 4000 BC.
Volcanoes.
It makes more sense than "Strength." Some unit types are better at offense than defense, like Tanks. Strength makes no sense at all.
Promotions only make sense with a Strength combat system, which Civ III doesn't have, nullifying this point.
I'll agree with you there, but Civ IV's is pretty dumb too.
Yes, you still are childish. Your reasons are very bad, and you refuse to refute posters, but rather go on a untangible ramble about Civ III or Civ IV. Your grammar, punctuation, and spelling leaves much to be desired. I will give you that you sometimes post arguments and something resembling proof, but I rarely see it.
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Ace of Gold
MAKE WAY FOR THE BAD GUY
I don't know how I can take you as an adult when you lack basic capitalization, grammar, and punctuation in your posts. Your arguments are pretty bad too, it mades the double-whammy.
Civ IV graphics look like they're made for five year olds. If you want proof, look at one leaderhead. Look at the moving resources. Seriously, moving resources? I don't need to be eye-entertained every 2 seconds to enjoy the game. Another step by Firaxis to dumb down Civ to the lowest possible level.
False. Civ IV graphics look terrible and not constructed well. They're made to look cool to a younger generation. Civ III's are better for an epic game, which Civ is. Civ IV's look good for a smaller game, but Civ is not designed to be a small game.
A problem.
Easily modded in.
I don't see how this is a problem. Does pollution not exist in real life?
Easily modded in.
The religion concept, while a good idea is not well implemented. All the religions are the same, and they all have the same effects. They're a good concept but not well implemented. I don't have much experience with the corporations, so I can't comment on them.
Good, great people is a broken concept that gives an unfair advantage to a human player vs. the AI.
Same resources. There's actually more in Civ III.
False. Units in Civ III are more balanced.
That, I must admit, is a bad thing. Easily implemented with modding though.
I wouldn't say that. Civ IV's is so bad that they had to bring back Civ III music.
True. That's one thing.
Don't kid yourself.
I'd rather have no wonder movies than that half-ass job from Firaxis with the Civ IV wonder movies. Have you ever seen anything so bland?
Pretty realistic. How many times do you see a squadron of cannon beating a squadron of tanks?
Why would you want to do that?
You would live in a cave in 4000 BC.
Volcanoes.
It makes more sense than "Strength." Some unit types are better at offense than defense, like Tanks. Strength makes no sense at all.
Promotions only make sense with a Strength combat system, which Civ III doesn't have, nullifying this point.
I'll agree with you there, but Civ IV's is pretty dumb too.
Yes, you still are childish. Your reasons are very bad, and you refuse to refute posters, but rather go on a untangible ramble about Civ III or Civ IV. Your grammar, punctuation, and spelling leaves much to be desired. I will give you that you sometimes post arguments and something resembling proof, but I rarely see it.
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ok look we both attacked spelling which was a mistake but lets try to keep language out of this conversation. and stop calling me childish like ainwood said lets try to keep it civilized. everyone has their opinions and you dont call a person childish by their opinions.
Moderator Action: Point made - but please leave it there.
I never attacked your spelling, I merely said it was poor. Once again, you show how your arguments have no merit by refusing to respond to my arguments, instead you try to act like the bigger man. Your opinions have no merit, and when someone refutes you, you don't respond. That means you were wrong from the beginning.
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azzaman333
meh
If you don't want to be called childish, make some more mature arguments in favour of your point of view rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "NUH UH!!!" as loud as you can.
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jessiecat
Divine Monarch
Moderator Action: :sigh:
If you want to discuss it with me, then do it via PM.
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If you want to discuss it with me, then do it via PM.
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I just sent ainwood a pm.
Wo what Happend here? and now over 8000 veiws
Time for short Commercial break
When playing Civ3 Enjoy Rhyes Terrain......Now Greener!
Ally landings should always look thier best..that why I use 'Rhyes Greenier' when putting enemies to the test!!........
Time for short Commercial break
When playing Civ3 Enjoy Rhyes Terrain......Now Greener!
Ally landings should always look thier best..that why I use 'Rhyes Greenier' when putting enemies to the test!!........
Spoiler :
Every single-core processor is either outdated (Pentium 4, Athlon 64) or low-end (Conroe-L). Modern multicore processors will outperform them in single-threaded applications
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T.A JONES, your post with the pictures of the ships gave me an idea. It seems lot of Civ 4 players don´t know anything about the unit graphics of Civ 3. But your screene about Civ 3 terrain accidentally contained some different sailing ships. This small number of different sailing ships is somewhat like the situation for a Civ 4 player who is is limited to this small number.
May be we should post here some more screenes with ships, so that some Civ 4 players can see the difference? No comparison of an existing Civ 3 ship and -if there is one- an existing Civ 4 ship as I don´t want to blame any Civ 4 unit creator who does a job I´m not able to do and therefore has my greatest respect. Only a representation of some ships of Civ 3.
May be to look on some nice pictures could calm down the situation in this thread.
jessiecat
Divine Monarch
I support that view. Recently moved from a 3500 Athlon 64 512 ram to a
5500 Athlon 64x2 Dualcore 1024ram. The performance increase in playing
BTS has been huge.
Ace of Gold
MAKE WAY FOR THE BAD GUY
dude these are mature arguments 18 reasons to support my opinion. is that not enough
Moderator Action: I have been very patient. I asked everyone to let things go, and to move on, and yet you insist on responding.
24 hour ban.
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I support that view. Recently moved from a 3500 Athlon 64 512 ram to a
5500 Athlon 64x2 Dualcore 1024ram. The performance increase in playing
BTS has been huge.
Yes Jesse but if come from a CedarMIll or Prescott monocore then the diffence is going to be so small its going out the door.
GBVN should be able to tell you why. ITs In its relation to Civ4's optimal design flaws regarding dual core efficiency and the huge amount of L2 memory enfused in later P4s, thesingle most important engine spec which fuels speed drive in interturn processing the Civ series. (when combined with fast ghz clocking that each system usually already provides)
Take in to account the only dif between the two games is ram payload. Civ4 needs a heck lot more before L2 cache carries the day
All those civ3 players on Northwoods (the bulk of what was around) Never had a chance late game.
Northwood (most common P4) L2 512kb
Presscott L2 1mb
CEDAR MILL L2 2mb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T.A JONES, your post with the pictures of the ships gave me an idea. It seems lot of Civ 4 players don´t know anything about the unit graphics of Civ 3. But your screene about Civ 3 terrain accidentally contained some different sailing ships. This small number of different sailing ships is somewhat like the situation for a Civ 4 player who is is limited to this small number.
May be we should post here some more screenes with ships, so that some Civ 4 players can see the difference? No comparison of an existing Civ 3 ship and -if there is one- an existing Civ 4 ship as I don´t want to blame any Civ 4 unit creator who does a job I´m not able to do and therefore has my greatest respect. Only a representation of some ships of Civ 3.
May be to look on some nice pictures could calm down the situation in this thread.
Yes a nice sample of ships their it seems. They all are from the same era and have full pedia entry telling of their historic context. I came out with some decent knowledge of ships in the Middla age. Thats what I tried to explain before. THe selection really lets Civ3 breakdown the eras in better historic detail while improving the graphics as they do it. They are asking 'why do you stay' after all. So why not tell/show them.
ABout the comparisons your right to be polite. I had the same idea when I linked civ3 leaderheads to this site. I was going to show the contrast in Civ4's original content for LH's compared to CIv'3. I decieded like you to hold off. I though this CIv4 artist did good with what the designers left him. Sadley the LH still looked like Rossevelt part way though a sex change (try to be someone else) ITs kinda a disgrace when you think how much they sold on the modding benifits.
dppilot
Chieftain
I never played CIV III, but I would think CIV IV is better.
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
Huh?
That... simply doesn't make sense.And saying the Civ3 forums are 1/3 of the Civ4 ones is simply false - today, 24 threads were replied to in only in the Civ3 Creation and Customization main forum. And 15 were replied to in the Civ4 Creation and Customization main forum.
So the facts speak for themselves.BTW, please keep in mind we're not in the same timezone, it's not my fault that in the US this day began less hours ago than it did here.
OH ALmost forgot Civinator Heres a lil taste of what you wanted: me discoverin a international port in a new land with a silver standard and many a unique boat afloat. Look two slaves and their embassy gaurd have even been sent to greet me!
Spoiler :
THis mod has 1000 units flavourfied so their was about a .05% chance you ran into an unequally rendered units of a lower degree like for ex. the 2 'tiger boats we see visiting from far away lands)
Time for short Commercial break
When playing Civ3 Enjoy Rhyes Terrain......Now Greener!
Yeah, Rhye. Sure one of the greatest modders of the Civ-franchise. He must have played a lot of Civ, probably knows it really well and for me seems to be kind of an authority in this matter. So I'd like to slip in a little quote from him I somehow found fitting in this context, taken from his Rhye's and Fall for Civ IV:
"Fortunately Civ4 is a much better game than Civ3, so it won't need as much rebalancing. But as it offers amazing modability, it would be a shame not to take advantage of it to add new aspects to the game. As a result, some "expanded" fetures are always in the works at any given time..."
Allready figured out that newer Processor are usually a lot faster than older ones, or are there still doubts??? I started with 3,5 MHz some 25 years ago, my latest one has 1,7 GHz. There seem to have been some minor inprovements over the years...
Cheers guys!
