Civ 4 Watered Down?

[Eddogegr3]

I just started playing Civ4 this month after YEARS of obsession with I - III.

One thing I noticed, they have less avaible units then I thought there would be. Why is there no Zulos? or Iroqois? or Carthigians? or Vikings?

And why is there only one type of rocket? What happened to Crusie Missles? What about Criusers and Aegis Crusiers? Why not Howitezers or Radar Artillery? (I love how seige weapons are back to nomral lalmost... i hate what they did to them in Civ 3)

YOu would think the newer the Civ version, more options.

I also noticed they totally downsized what diplomates/spies do (but at least this was because they improved other areas).

 

[Willem]

Why is there no Zulos? or Iroqois? or Carthigians? or Vikings?

Civ 3 didn't have that many civs when it first came out either, more were added with each expansion. The same will happen with Civ 4. The upcoming expansion will include 6 new civs.

 

[Pantastic]

Diplomats/spies being cut down is an improvement, being able to take over an entire city and all of its units without a fight was a bit silly, especially if you did it to a city that an invading army just conquered and so got the whole army for yourself.

 

[Raisin Bran]

I like it as it is

The way I see it is If you are going to make a sequel to a game like civ make it different instead of taking the same game with better graphics.

there are some flaws in the game .... true ..... what game dosent have any! But Civ III did have some .... you did not like the seige weapons.
you can always mod the things you want to be better!

Its a great game ..... with flaws ........ but its not watered down!

 

[MrPaladin]

I've only jumped in at the Civ4 stage... and I can understand the comments...

but I dont feel like I'm getting a watered down experience, as it is when I go into combat I usually have 4 types of units at any one time to have to manage because some will do better then others, if I had even more to deal with it would become to tedious to manage...

As for missing leaders, Io will rarly start up a game with a concept in mind EG, wanting a philosophical with creative only to find no leader fits that bill...

As for flaws, about the only thing effecting my system has been when I do a bombing run with alot of planes... they will lag up for a moment...

all up I think the game deserves the rating it gets, but I hear multiplayer has problems... somethign I thought was done from the ground up, seems odd for it to be flawed liek it is...

 

[boneys26]

I think as soon as the SDK comes out we will see more rockets not just the ICBM (which is a useless unit unless you like global warming or loads of cleaning up after)

 

[Kalleyao]

Radar Artillery were good. Too bad they're not in CIV.

 

[Older than Dirt]

Cruisers are not in Civ 4, because they are not an important modern weapon. What navies of the advanced world powers has cruisers? Does Austria have one? No. I rest my case.

 

[scienide09]

Ummm, did you by any chance mean Australia? I ask only because Austria is landlocked, and thus doesn't have much need for a navy.

 

[Raisin Bran]

Ummm, did you by any chance mean Australia? I ask only because Austria is landlocked, and thus doesn't have much need for a navy.

Damn I knew there was something fishy when the girl I met told me she was a capitan in the Austrian navy!

 

[RogerBacon]

I think as soon as the SDK comes out we will see more rockets not just the ICBM (which is a useless unit unless you like global warming or loads of cleaning up after)

The SDK is all about C++ programming and has nothing to do with graphics, just so you know.

Roger Bacon

 

[mutax2003]

Damn I knew there was something fishy when the girl I met told me she was a capitan in the Austrian navy!

She was just trying to give you the slip. It is like "Um, I have to go on deployment with my Austrian navy, so I won't see you for a long time, maybe once in a while during blue moons. And by the way, we have no phone or mailing address in the navy."

 

[bobsteve]

I think we need to get the cruisers back in to the game. The US Navy uses the Aegis Cruisers and they are super powerfull. Of couse any ship the navy uses is really just there to protect the aircraft carrier in the center of the battle group.

 

[Chamaedrys]

The Aegis Cruiser would be a good upgrade for the Battle Ship. Battle ships get out off use after WW2 and today the Aegis Cruiser is the heaviest war ship.

 

[zyphyr]

I get the feeling that Older than Dirt was being a bit sarcastic there.

Anyway, with the minimal importance that naval action has in Civ4 I don't see much point in adding Cruisers back in (though I most certainly wouldn't object to it).

 

[scienide09]

I get the feeling that Older than Dirt was being a bit sarcastic there.

I think that might be the case as well, but until that's confirmed...

Probably no need for a Cruiser unit.
For that matter, not much use of the ironclad, either. And before anyone jumps on my back about that, I know that there's an ongoing debate about the ironclad and whether it is useful, and that some people heartily defend the unit and its existence. So the above is my opinion, and I never waste hammers building them...

 

[Willem]

For that matter, not much use of the ironclad, either. And before anyone jumps on my back about that, I know that there's an ongoing debate about the ironclad and whether it is useful, and that some people heartily defend the unit and its existence. So the above is my opinion, and I never waste hammers building them...

I build them to protect my sea-based resources, they're useful for that.

 

[JavalTigar]

The Ironclads should be reprented like Perrys White Fleet. I would consider it the high water mark of steam powered war vessel. The Frigate is the best represenative of the sail/cannon war vessel.

Back on topic: With the highly modable nature of this game combined with the rabid mod community, just wait you will get your wish. Actually the units forum already has the mobile art and mobile SAM units in it. Go get 'em!

 

[Willem]

You might be intrested to know that swisterland has a navy. It has 1 submarine and 2 destroyers.

And here I thought Canada had wasted money buying those submarines from the British. At least we can put them in the water.

 

[scienide09]

And here I thought Canada had wasted money buying those submarines from the British. At least we can put them in the water.

Yeah, but we only put them in the water so we can put the fires out a little faster.