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[NFP] Civ 6 World Wonder for Domination Victories Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Duke William of Normandy, Nov 15, 2020.

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  1. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(20)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(21)
    Golden Gate Bridge(20)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(20)
    Hermitage(17)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(20)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14) Gurus... Since when do people actually use Gurus in Civ 6? They're good at being peaceful, but that doesn't really help with WAR. Meenakshi Temple is just not a good wonder, even less so for a Domination Victory.
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(13)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(20)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(17)
    Sydney Opera House(11)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(20)
    Terracotta Army(23) Extra Promotions are always good, no matter what. Plus the Great General Points are useful for early Great Generals.
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  2. leandrombraz

    leandrombraz Emperor

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(20)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(21)
    Golden Gate Bridge(20)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(20)
    Hermitage(14) (17-3) - It isn't good even for a cultural victory, let alone for domination.
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(20)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14) (13+1) - A wonder that is bad 99,99% of the time, still better than wonders that are bad 100% of the time. There are other wonders that deserve to go down first.
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(20)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(17)
    Sydney Opera House(11)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(20)
    Terracotta Army(23)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  3. Archon_Wing

    Archon_Wing Vote for me or die

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    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(21)
    Golden Gate Bridge(20)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17) 20-3 You shouldn't build this wonder, much less for a domination victory. If anything, growing bigger will cause even more trouble with amenities
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(20)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21) 20+1 Useful for the spies and city state cards, as that will be your only real source of foreign trade.
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(17)
    Sydney Opera House(11)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(20)
    Terracotta Army(23)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  4. greenOak

    greenOak Warlord

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(20)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(21)
    Golden Gate Bridge(20)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(17)
    Sydney Opera House(11)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(23)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)

    Temple of Artemis (21) - On deity, Temple of Artemis is the best ancient era in the game ever since the pyramids and oracle became impossible to get. Growth is very good in the early game and ToA gives you everything you need to grow without penalty. In a domination game, having your capital with a encampment, government plaza, and campus within 50-60 turns is very powerful.

    Mahabodhi Temple (17) - Can't see this would ever helpful in a domination game (in fairness this applies to a lot of the wonders on this list). Spreading religion is useless in a domination game and 4 faith is nothing by the time you can build this.
     
  5. kryat

    kryat King

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    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(21)
    Golden Gate Bridge(17) (20-3)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18) (17+1)
    Sydney Opera House(11)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(23)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)

    GGB - maybe shouldn’t be first go out, but it’s close. It’s a pretty paltry amenity bonus, and while canals are awesome, 1 tile bridges aren’t as useful.

    Stonehenge - Difficult to get on high difficulty, but not completely impossible. You could make a play for crusade.
     
  6. pjotroos

    pjotroos Chieftain

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    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(20)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(21)
    Golden Gate Bridge(17)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(8) [11-3] There's a bunch of wonders with no real use for Domination Victory, but at least you'll see most of them. Domination Victory on a standard-sized map, though, is likely to finish before you even reach the required civic for this production dump.
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24) [23+1] The promotions are guaranteed to be useful, and - contrary to earlier comment - work for all units, too, not just the land ones. If finished halfway through an invasion, it can massively turn things around.
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  7. The Highwayman

    The Highwayman Prince

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(20)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(22) (21+1) A great all around wonder. Extra policy slot lets you get additional science or money through policy cards - two things you need in spades in a dom game.
    Golden Gate Bridge(14) (17-3) It's late and helps with appeal in a single city. Why spend production on this when conquest should be wrapping up?
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(20)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(8)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  8. Bosque

    Bosque Warlord

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21) (20+1) I have always found this to be an invaluable Wonder, making it much easier to gain city state allies in wars across the globe. The only downside is that to be really effective, you must commit to building more wonders in your capitol.
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Eiffel Tower(11)
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17) (20-3) This is a pretty useless wonder for any victory condition. Pillaging one enemy tile will probably produce more gold than this wonder will, particularly since you won't have any trade partners while at war with the entire world.
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(21)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(8)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  9. Xandinho

    Xandinho Emperor

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8) 11-3. It has nothing to offer for military victory, appeal is strictly linked to cultural victory.
    Estádio do Maracanã(20)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(22) 21+1. Faith is very important for military victory, since you can buy units.
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(8)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(17)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  10. IsabelBraganca

    IsabelBraganca Chieftain

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21) 20+1 +2 amenities for each city is huge when you have more than 50 cities
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(22)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(8)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(16) 17-1 The bonus is too small for the cost because you depends of other p players trade routes.
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  11. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

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    It's a -3 when downvoting a wonder, not a -1.


    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(14)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(23) It's a good wonder if you are low on Iron, or don't have access to it. It's a good catchup wonder for a Domination Victory, especially because it will let you build Knights and Swordsman.
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(5) This Wonder comes far too late to make a difference in a Cultural Victory, is useless for a Domination Victory, is useless in general. I still believe the Panama Canal is still the plain yogurt of Wonders, though.
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  12. The Highwayman

    The Highwayman Prince

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    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(11) (14-3) Minimal impact on culture games....zero impact on domination.
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24) (23+1) Potentially counters poor rng from the erratic iron spawn. It pairs nicely with Grandmaster's Chapel, my preferred tier 2 gov plaza building for dom. Faith is such a good yield.
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(20)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(5)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  13. CoconutTank

    CoconutTank Unapologetic Warmonger Supporter

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    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21) (20 + 1) Maus gives +1 science, +1 culture and +1 faith on all coastal tiles within the city. Maus is available fairly early as well, within the same tier as Great Library in fact. A well placed Maus can give quite a lot of science over the course of the session, and culture and faith are still very important for domination. The additional charge for Great Engineers is nice to have, but not nearly as relevant for domination as the yields.

    Sydney Opera House(2) (5 - 3) Might as well get SOH out of the way. It's way too late to be of any use for domination, and it is primarily focused on music, which is not useful for domination.

    Alhambra(21)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(11)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(18)
    Sydney Opera House(2)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  14. pjotroos

    pjotroos Chieftain

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    Alhambra(22) [21+1] Love the flexibility it gives you when it comes to government choices (tier 2 especially) and it should be trivial to grab if you're going for a domination game. Not the best one out, maybe, but certainly up there.
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(11)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(15) [18-3] You won't - and shouldn't - build it in most of your games. Especially so in the domination ones.
    Sydney Opera House(2)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(21)
     
  15. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

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    Alhambra(22)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(11)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(21)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(15)
    Sydney Opera House(0) (Eliminated) I might as well mercy kill SOH at this point. Very late for a Cultural Victory, useless for a Domination Victory.
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(22) Basically Scythia's ability except for Naval Units, which is good for people playing a non-Pangea map.

    Farewell, Sydney Opera House. You are eliminated from this game.

    Sydney Opera House: #50
     
  16. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

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    Alhambra(22)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(8) Too late in the game to make much of a difference, and let's be honest. What is the Hermitage going to do for you in a Domination game?
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(22) I'm really surprised the Pyramids have only one upvote. With the Pyramids, you can worry less about building Builders because they become more useful. There's also the extra Culture, which helps when you are spending most of your time building Military Units instead of things related to Culture.
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(15)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(21)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(22)
     
  17. Vargas1

    Vargas1 Warlord

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    Alhambra(22)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(20)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(8)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(22)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(12)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(22)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(22)

    Stonehenge(12) - an early production sink at a time when in a dom game you should be building up your first army. Though religion can be useful for domination, the most helpful beliefs (Work Ethic, Crusade) tend not to go early to the AI anyway, so there is really no reason to rush to be the first religion even if you do want to incorporate religion into your game.

    Temple of Artemis(22) - one of my personal favorite wonders for any victory type. For dom, you're probably only settling a small number of cities yourself (and capturing the rest), so may as well make one of your first cities a super-city. Plus if the map shakes out right the amenity bonus can support your war-mongering for a long time.
     
  18. CoconutTank

    CoconutTank Unapologetic Warmonger Supporter

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    Mostly spreading out my upvotes at this time, but will try to cull the list a bit more with my downvotes :p

    Big Ben(21) (20 + 1) Big Ben gives a huge lump of gold when built, and also grants a yellow slot. Being able to build up and maintain an army often requires a large amount of gold and production, and economic policies often cover gold and production boosts. Science boosting policies are generally economic as well. Big Ben itself isn't available early on, but the additional yellow slot is still nice to have at any point of the game.

    Hermitage(5) (8 - 3) The Hermitage is a culture focused wonder, but doesn't do much for domination. It also comes very late in the session. Has about the same usefulness as Sydney Opera House, but comes a little earlier.

    Alhambra(22)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(21)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(5)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(22)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(12)
    Taj Mahal(21)
    Temple of Artemis(22)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(22)
     
  19. IsabelBraganca

    IsabelBraganca Chieftain

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    Taj Mahal(21+1) This wonder is useful to chain Golden Ages. Golden Ages helps with loyalty.
    Hermitage(5-3) The only reason to build it is to avoid a Dark Age in the Dramatic Age Mode. I seldom build it even when aiming to a cultural victory.

    Alhambra(22)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(21)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(2)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(22)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(18)
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(12)
    Taj Mahal(22)
    Temple of Artemis(22)
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(22)
     
  20. Archon_Wing

    Archon_Wing Vote for me or die

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    Alhambra(22)
    Amundsen-Scott Research Station(20)
    Angkor Wat(20)
    Apadana(21)
    Big Ben(21)
    Biosphere(20)
    Bolshoi Theatre(20)
    Broadway(20)
    Casa de Contratación(21)
    Chichen Itza(20)
    Colosseum(22)
    Cristo Redentor(20)
    Eiffel Tower(8)
    Estádio do Maracanã(21)
    Forbidden City(22)
    Golden Gate Bridge(14)
    Great Bath(20)
    Great Library(21)
    Great Lighthouse(20)
    Great Zimbabwe(17)
    Hagia Sophia(17)
    Hanging Gardens(17)
    Hermitage(2)
    Huey Teocalli(20)
    Jebel Barkal(24)
    Kilwa Kiswani(22)
    Kotoku-in(20)
    Machu Pichu(20)
    Mahabodhi Temple(17)
    Mausoleum at Halicarnassus(21)
    Meenakshi Temple(14)
    Mont St. Michel(17)
    Oracle(20)
    Országház(17)
    Oxford University(20)
    Panama Canal(14)
    Petra(20)
    Potala Palace(21)
    Pyramids(22)
    Ruhr Valley(20)
    St. Basil's Cathedral(20)
    Statue of Liberty(15) 18-3 Although this would be the perfect wonder to capture, I think building an entire wonder to keep a few cities loyal is kinda overkill. While it may be a desperation maneuver if you hit a dark age, you're still better just investing in more army.
    Statue of Zeus(20)
    Stonehenge(12)
    Taj Mahal(22)
    Temple of Artemis(23) 22+1 Amenities early on can and will ruin early attempts at domination especially if you're trying to war in a dark/normal age. Also having your capital be big makes life a lot easier for the loyalty pressure and overwhelming tendency of the AI to settle in your face in higher difficulties. Also it comes at archery, so the tech path is like never a detour.
    Terracotta Army(24)
    University of Sankore(14)
    Venetian Arsenal(22)
     
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