Civ IV: Beyond the Sword Info Center

[Methos]

actually according to http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civilizationivbeyondthesword/news.html?sid=6171558&mode=previews
3rd paragraph down does mention spies so unfortunatley they might be in

Realize that article is not "official" and by that I mean the statements made in it are not from Alex, or someone else at Firaxis. And as Gaius Octavius stated, when asked about the inclusion of ninja's, John Shafer stated that no, ninja's will not be in BTS.

 

[flamingzaroc121]

^^ ok thanks, i was just look at the wikipedia section on BTS and it had ninja's but i've changed that

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

James V of Scotland/ James I of England

C'mon! It's James VI of Scotland/James I of England .

On another note, I'd be surprised not to see Charlemagne in the expansion. There has been talk in the past of him not being in previous versions of Civ; he has a scenario dedicated to him this time which has been one of the more publicized components. However, if Charlemagne did make it into BTS, would the Franks be one of the new civs, or would he be an alternative for France or Germany?

 

[snipperrabbit!!]

It would be France since the previous Merovingian dinasty was ruling mostly territories under actual french borders for about two centuries.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

I tend to associate Charlemagne wth the French, if for no other reason than his name.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

I tend to associate Charlemagne wth the French, if for no other reason than his name.

Yes, there's his name; also did the name "France" evolve from "Franks?" However, I associate him with Germany just as much, especially Aachen - and let's not forget he aquired much of Italy too. However, France is as good as any other choice for Charlemagne to represent (unless they do the Franks, which I'd have considered unlikely) - as long as he's in the game!

 

[Tee Kay]

"Franks" are associated with France, but Charlemange's capital is in Germany.

Hmmm...tricky decision.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

It'll make somebody mad; that's all I know. Just like this:

Spoiler :

 

[Hitti-Litti]

^^

You really like that picture? Third time you use it.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

More than the third, I'm sure.

It just struck me as particularly ironic.

 

[TheLastOne36]

It'll make somebody mad; that's all I know. Just like this:

Spoiler :

Haha very funny...

 

[RushjobDK]

The only thing that irritates me is that i have to wait until the end of July to get it. My summer holiday already starts in about two weeks!

Too long to wait.

 

[Titus001]

Can someone tell me if the expansion will have an Earth 24 map? I'm going to buy the expansion the first day it comes out but I just want an Earth 24 map for those people who do have beefy comps. They could just have an Earth 24 map or just add every civilization (Except The Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines)to their respected areas and have more than 24 civs. They could also keep the vannila 18 civ earth map for the people who do not have the beefy GB to play with more than 18 civs. Once again I will be very disappointed if they don't add an earth 24 map. And another thing, Why can't we play normal games with huge maps with more than 18 civs? I always play huge maps with 18 civs but I want more than 18.

Again, any word if they will add an EARTH 24 map or allow us to play regular maps with 24 civs or more? If they do allow us to play with more than 18 civs in any map including EARTH this expansion gets A+ in my opinion. If not it will be a solid B for me.....

 

[White Elk]

^^

You really like that picture? Third time you use it.

hehe heres my favorite...

Spoiler :

To be legally, nearly on topic...

I think all civs Deserve to be in the game. Of course they can't all fit, even in a mod until such time as the MAF is fixed. So there must be some determining factors. There are many threads arguing who should and shouldn't be in. These go back to the begining of Civilization (the game ;~) People can be quite passionate about it. I'd like to see Firaxis design an XP for the sole purpose of making the game modable by us non-programming types. A glorified game editor which also contains software for some basic graphics modding. I think it would sell well just based on how frequent these Civ choice discussions come up.

 

[White Elk]

Again, any word if they will add an EARTH 24 map or allow us to play regular maps with 24 civs or more? If they do allow us to play with more than 18 civs in any map including EARTH this expansion gets A+ in my opinion. If not it will be a solid B for me.....

I think before that can happen they must resolve some memory issues.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Can someone tell me if the expansion will have an Earth 24 map? I'm going to buy the expansion the first day it comes out but I just want an Earth 24 map for those people who do have beefy comps. They could just have an Earth 24 map or just add every civilization (Except The Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines)to their respected areas and have more than 24 civs. They could also keep the vannila 18 civ earth map for the people who do not have the beefy GB to play with more than 18 civs. Once again I will be very disappointed if they don't add an earth 24 map. And another thing, Why can't we play normal games with huge maps with more than 18 civs? I always play huge maps with 18 civs but I want more than 18.

Again, any word if they will add an EARTH 24 map or allow us to play regular maps with 24 civs or more? If they do allow us to play with more than 18 civs in any map including EARTH this expansion gets A+ in my opinion. If not it will be a solid B for me.....

Well, Rhye's mod will be included, and it uses a 24 Earth map, so my answer would be "yes." Probably.

I wonder if his mod will include the Byzantines...? Well, no matter. You can change them on the basic Earth map.

 

[Will9]

Part of a Civilization is their language. The Franks spoke Frakish so they can't be considered the same civilization as the French.

 

[Goonie]

Hi, first time poster. I don't mean to be offensive to Canadians, but they haven't really done anything really dramatic to affect history. While they might be powerful or rich, I don't think that alone would be good enough. I like to think of the key to a civilization in "Civilization" the game is that they need to be distinct, dramatic, exotic, and/or extremely strong willed at least once one point in history.

Canadian inventions: acrylics, basketball, Canadarm (duh spacerace), electron microscope, time zones, green plastic garbage bags, Ginger Ale, IMAX, heartvalve operations, insulin, java, world's first patented lightbulb, pacemakers, paint rollers, panoramic camera, ski-bindings, snowblower, snowmobile, foghorns, walkie-talkies, zippers, blackberries, caulking guns,.. just to name a few.

On top of that, this is about the modern age. Canada has been a significant player in the modern age. The 100 Days of Canada in WWI? D-Day landings at Juno beach? Canada and Britain pushing the founding of NATO. Creating peacekeeping as it is known today. Only a truly ignorant person would belittle the role Canada has played in modern times.

On top of that, Canada has a very distinct, dramatic, exotic history. You may actually have to open a book or two to read about it. Our marriage of English and French Canada has produced many unique Governmental institutions that have been adopted globally. Most recently a Charter of Rights and Freedom within a Westminster style of government.

No more ignorant statements please.

 

[Goonie]

Are you still talking about Canada?

A poll on Poly agreed that Canada shouldn't need to be in civ.

Why not look up the G8? Or World GDP numbers, and then come back and talk.

 

[Will9]

Why not look up the G8? Or World GDP numbers, and then come back and talk.

Have you ever heard of a joke?