Nah. I can't see myself like making an account somewhere and posting exclusively about how I dislike something. I'd just go play something else. I tend to give the developers the benefit of the doubt, even if I dislike the idea at first. I'm not a game designer, and I know they've thought their ideas through and tested them.
No. Civ switching, in the way they are implementing it, is a complete dealbreaker for me, as is the map expansion feature. I will not purchase this game unless those features are significantly changed and I have no desire to support the developers who made the decision to implement these features.
I don't see any similarity between multiple leaders and leader switching--or if multiple leaders are a precedent for leader switching, then the fact you can select from more than one civ is a precedent for civ changing. Both are without precedent. One is antithetical to some people; the other would be antithetical to others.
These forums are often read by some FXS people. I'm sure they will read through these threads that deal with the announcement and note the criticism that is voiced.
I'm not expecting significant changes which will change my stance prior to release, I understand how the industry works. My hope is that either we see significant post release changes or that the game does relatively poorly and the team is not around to do Civ 8 and it is given to someone else.
Maybe that's what I really disagree with. Why should it do poorly because you don't like it? If others enjoy it, let them have their fun and a game that grows for years. I didn't go around wishing poor success to civ VI just because I didn't like to play it. There are so many other games (and mods) that everybody can find something worth their time. If it isn't civ VII for you, that's fine, and there are/will be alternatives - or a heavily modded civ VII. Not granting others their fun and little toys seems very childish to me.
That is most probable, regardless of good the game does. I would bet money on the expansion being done by at least different leads.
For classic mode, it really depends how moddable things will be. Can the crisis be made irrelevant easily, e.g., granting the economic golden age to everybody, exchanging policy cards with normal ones, and buildings not being destroyed? I suppose everybody is fine with barbarians attacking out of thin air.
If people have fun with the game, great. I hate the majority of the new features except two: navigable rivers and army commanders. As I explained in another thread, if someone is destroying a franchise you love, it is perfectly reasonable to no longer want them to work on it or for significant changes to be made. The way that happens, in this case, is for the game to do poorly from a sales perspective.
Given that Kurtzman is on record as saying he hates Star Trek and is acting out of malice, whereas Ed Beach and his team are clearly working out of passion, simply in a direction that you specifically don't like, that's not remotely a comparable analogy.
I don't particularly care about the motivation, I care about the result. If Kurtzman was making great shows, he could be putting pins in a Picard voodoo doll in his office and I wouldn't care.
Motivation does matter. Your claim that Ed Beach is "destroying the franchise" assumes acting in bad faith, which there is no evidence for. He's not destroying the franchise; he's making a game you don't like. There's a big difference. (Also, malice and quality have no relationship. The Last Jedi is probably the highest quality production in all of Star Wars; it's also pure malice.)
You can definitely destroy something without bad faith. I've watched numerous football coaches, while certainly trying their best and having a lot of motivation, destroy my teams due to their ineptitude.
That doesn't remotely justify your ill will against him, especially since he has a solid record in the Civ franchise: he made Civ5 a playable game (lead designer on both expansions) and he made Civ6 and GS. He deserves at least the benefit of doubt.
There's a sixth century Chinese scroll complaining about those darn kids and their non-traditional drumming.
I don't bear him any ill-will, you're the one making assumptions here. I just don't want this team on any Civ games going forward.
