Civ VI + Mac OS High Sierra
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Just saw a report on AppleInsider that games using the Unity game engine are having issues with APFS volumes, the new disk format used on SSD equipped Macs (MacBooks, MacBook Pros). Article specifically mentions Civ V crashing or just not starting on volumes formatted with APFS. Civ VI uses a different engine and appears not to be affected.
Signed in this morning to see that Civ V has been 'uninstalled' on my iMac, appearing in gray text and displaying a large Install button in the Steam window. Checked my ~/Applications folder and see the app still present. Been a long time since I played it but don't remember manually removing it in the last few months. Checked the internals via View Package Contents and most of the resources are gone within the app. I suspect the report of APFS issues may have caused them to disable launching on non-HFS+ volumes but can't say for sure.
Very strange but something I can roll with.
Very strange but something I can roll with.
Boris Gudenuf
Deity
It's even acknowledged by Aspyr that Civ V doesn't run on High Sierra.
However, I have also been having problems with Civ VI on High Sierra: Frame Rates dropping by almost 50% using the same settings as before the upgrade to the operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
It may be related to the number of Mods I was trying to use, but, as stated above, they were the same ones with the same Graphics settings I'd used with OS Sierra, except that now, on High Sierra, I had to make a number of tweaks to the Graphic Settings to get the Frame Rate back up to where it wasn't giving me a headache!
However, I have also been having problems with Civ VI on High Sierra: Frame Rates dropping by almost 50% using the same settings as before the upgrade to the operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
It may be related to the number of Mods I was trying to use, but, as stated above, they were the same ones with the same Graphics settings I'd used with OS Sierra, except that now, on High Sierra, I had to make a number of tweaks to the Graphic Settings to get the Frame Rate back up to where it wasn't giving me a headache!
I am having the same issues. Unbearably slow. What did you change to get the frame rate back up?
Boris Gudenuf
Deity
Biggest change was to reduce the resolution by about 2/3 - I had it at the top setting by default. Made some other minor tweaks - reduced the detail/shadow settings -but that made the biggest difference.
Unfortunately, it's not a complete fix: 25 - 40 turns into a game, the frame rate AND the response time to commands will drop to unacceptable levels, and the game will sometimes from the begining take 2 - 3 times as long as usual to 'calculate' other players turns - time between turns becomes ridiculously long, and this on a Standard Map when there shouldn't be any extra demands on the system.
- and I checked, this problem is ONLY with Civ VI: as far as I can tell, there is no discernible degradation of response time or graphics with Beyond Earth, Grand Ages Medieval or Europa Universalis IV, the other games I have installed on my Mac.
I have simply come to the conclusion that the Mac OS is no longer compatible with Civ games as they are currently coded, and if I want to play them, I'm going to have to install BootCamp...
scorpioMKD
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Yep - Totally messed the game up...just as you said...bad graphic issues and crashes as you progress more in the game....and slower...i shouldn't have to adjust any settings in the game but might have to just to play it. The game is graphically challenging as you move forward so depending on your Mac capabilities you will always get this type of problem when newer titles come out and large Mac/PC OS updates but its pretty bad with High Sierra. My mac's about 4yrs old now...will probably have to invest in a new one.
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scorpioMKD
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Here's a clear example since the update...this is your well respected president Theodore Roosevelt in his usual attire.
And here he is following his High Sierra update.....are you ready...be ready...lol..!!
The guy could be mistaken for a bald black slave waiter of the same era......dafuq..!!!
And here he is following his High Sierra update.....are you ready...be ready...lol..!!
The guy could be mistaken for a bald black slave waiter of the same era......dafuq..!!!
belligerent
Chieftain
I just updated to High Sierra last night, and now I can't take any actions with units, end turns, and all cities show "nothing in queue" nor can I select new actions. It's unplayable at this point, but no graphic issues. Anyone else having similar issue?
After the High Sierra update, Civ VI through Steam has become totally unplayable. Frame rate, lag, and unbearably slow and keeps crashing after about 30 or 40 turns.
I'm running a 2013 Mac with a 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5 and Nvidia GeForce GTX 675MX 1 GB
Never had problems prior to the High Sierra update. I've logged over 1000 hours, almost all on the huge map.
Very frustrating. Anyone know if/when there will be a fix?
I'm running a 2013 Mac with a 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5 and Nvidia GeForce GTX 675MX 1 GB
Never had problems prior to the High Sierra update. I've logged over 1000 hours, almost all on the huge map.
Very frustrating. Anyone know if/when there will be a fix?
Aspyr is certainly aware of it. I suppose this is one of the reasons why we didn't get the fall patch as of yet, since I think Aspyr is trying to release a fix for it with that. Mac and linux test builds don't have the same depots linked to them and updating asynchron in the steam db is supporting this theory. No ETA that I'm aware of.
Boris Gudenuf
Deity
Exactly the same kind of problems I had on a 2012 iMac with the same CPU and a GTX 680MX 2 GB. I 'solved' the problems by scrubbing the whole system and reinstalling a Time Machine backup with Sierra. There was nothing High Sierra did that was or is necessary for my work or play on the iMac, so I have relearned a lesson I should have never forgotten: Never Upgrade Until You Are Sure They've Got The Problems Worked Out.
belligerent
Chieftain
Now that I think I've sorted through my issue discussed above, I'll start a new game today on my brandy-new iMac with High Sierra and report back here this afternoon. At least we may know if it's an issue with HS or older machines. Previously had all kinds of crash issues on my 2008 iMac with CivV after upgrading to Sierra.
belligerent
Chieftain
Through 70 some turns, no issues. Turned of CQUI (which apparently updated for me last night) and my issues are resolved. Hopefully CQUI gets back to working shortly.
SirWill90
Warlord
I wonder if the delay in getting the Mac version of the latest update is because Aspyr has to deal with Sierra and High Sierra now. I just reverted my 2017 iMac 27 to Sierra for other reasons, looking forward to finding out if the new Aspyr update will work ok. Meantime I play in bootcamp.
