Civ4 shows liberal bias?

[CurtSibling]

LOL so says the guy with 22,000+ posts on a forum about computer games. No offense dude but you walked into this one...

Hmmmm.

From your use of 'LOL' - Methinks we can see who is the stereotyped gamesite poster here.

Tell me how my post count has anything to do with the sheer glorious
idiocy of this thread? Keep in mind that was the point of my post...

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[Mrdie]

Okay, since this thread has gone offtopic (Hence why it is on the offtopic section) I will say what I believe. I believe that gun control is a good idea. Mind you, not banning every single gun, but restricting acess to anything stronger than a hunting rifle and requiring background checks and ID cards. Is that REALLY too much to ask?

 

[bhsup]

but restricting acess to anything stronger than a hunting rifle and requiring background checks and ID cards. Is that REALLY too much to ask?

Sorry, but yes it is too much to ask, at least in the USA. You might as well ask if it is too much to ask to require people to get licenses before they can speak. Both are Constitutionally protected rights.

If I want a gun, I should be able to walk into any store that sells one and not have the government interfere with my ability to walk out that very minute with the gun of my choice. And the ammo to match.

 

[CurtSibling]

I cannot believe you guys and your gun fetish!

 

[bhsup]

I cannot believe you guys and your gun fetish!

Few things in life are more enjoyable than crawling into bed after a long, hard day and curling up with your personal assault rifle.

 

[Proper Gander]

LOL so says the guy with 22,000+ posts on a forum about computer games. No offense dude but you walked into this one...

and thus being able to shoot the next guy in the head if you're totally distorted.

 

[CurtSibling]

Few things in life are more enjoyable than crawling into bed after a long, hard day and curling up with your personal assault rifle.

Make sure you don't go off in the night!

 

[Perfection]

LOL so says the guy with 22,000+ posts on a forum about computer games. No offense dude but you walked into this one...

HAHAHA So true!

 

[CurtSibling]

The irony here is blatant.

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[Rambuchan]

I just want to contribute my 2gp worth to this:

Has anyone mentioned this in "The Most Ridiculous thread ever?" thread?

It is a VERY strong contender.

 

[Bain]

So you can 'prove' that the Ice Age and all of the other massive swings in climate over the past 2 billion years were due to humans also? Amazing feat. The Earth's climate is a resilient feedback system that is able to self-correct against FAR larger perturbations that anything we humans could imaginably cause. Think of all of the meteors, massive volcano eruptions, etc. that have happened in the Earth's history. The Earth recovered from EVERY ONE.

look, the redneck that despises education and universities is trying to talk about this? What hypocrisy

 

[upstart]

I don't know why a liberal (socialist) Would even play this game.
I mean you can't BAN guns... The game would be no fun like that...
Oh I guess you try and make a Global Socialist Government Run by the UN, what fun.

Liberals in the US are Marxist, If you don't Believe it then read the Communist Manifesto. Everything Marx Instructed to turn a country Socialist is part of Democratic Platform.

Sure there are tons of republicans who are just as liberal, but REAL conservatives (the People not the politicans) want government to be limited to it's Constitutional Limits. Since power corrupts it will never happen.

I would think that people playing this game would know something about history. I don't think any of you have ANY idea whats in the Communist Manifesto and IF YOU DO, You like it!
Why didn't you Europeans just join the USSR in the cold war? Communist, Socialist DO you even know the difference?

Maybe Liberals like this game because it allows them to re-write History.

American Patriotism is Facism? Most Patriots I know just want the Government to it's Consititutional Limits (which means the military Protecting
the Borders, not being global policeman). The ONLY Consititution that states rights are given to you by GOD not the Government!

Your So busy Fighting against God and the US Consititution that you don't even realize it's your last hope. As soon as it's out of the way, Considering that Absolute Power Currupts Absolutly, and all the power that your willing to give to larger and Larger Enity's (EU, UN). What are they going to do with that power? It is inevitable, Global Control.

No matter what the outcome is the same. Whether The Globalist at the UN control the World, The EU, Or George Bush.... It's all the same. The ultimate Outcome (don't you know from playing this game) Is Planitary Destruction, or Global Slavery. the best way to enslave people is make them think they are free.

I apologize for going back pages in this argument, but this just kills me....it proves just how close-minded and with accute tunnel-vision alot of conservatives see the world. It must be like having beer-goggles but affecting your whole life, like the president is some guardian saint who could do no evil but everyone with a different opinion is just a minion of satan. Anyways on to your points:

I am a liberal BUT do not favor extreme gun-control. Have you died of a heart attack yet? Because some of us do have differing views. Anyways, I believe they should be checked and controlled, but NOT outright banned. Then, only the police and army would have them and we the people would have even less power to resist government control.

You say you favor limited power of a government? How does adding a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage further that goal? How about another dozen wars to "bring down the tyrannts"? How about unlimited powers to search and sieze without reason or warrant? I could go on and on. And if you personally don't support policing the world, then get a clue....STOP VOTING FOR PEOPLE WHO DO SUPPORT IT.

And the point about all liberals subscribing to the communist manifesto? Wow. Sounds like something straight out of Rush Limbaugh's propaganda scare-athon. I think you have no idea what is in it. If you think ALL US liberals want the farmers of america to rise up in a bloody revolt and take out all of the government hierarchy which exists today and replace it with a utopian marxist state, which is basically the point of the communist manifesto, you have some serious "boogey-man" issues going on there.

Anyways, I am off to my local communist underground network meeting where we are all plotting against you, so gotta run!

 

[jar2574]

The army carries select-fire M-16s, that can be changed from semi-automatic, to three-round-burst, to full-automatic.

Well, why don't they just carry hunting rifles, since they'd do the job just as well?

Three-round burst and semi-automatic are what they usually use, since fully automatic is so inaccurate. I'm sure a hunting rifle would do the trick though.

 

[countzero]

hmm what about emperor palpatine (darth sidious) appearing on the icon of "guilds" tech ? don't you think it humiliates conservatives, anyone ?

 

[Marlor]

I don't think many people have addressed warpus's point from the first page of this thread. Why does the term "liberal" mean "socialist" in the USA?

Liberalism is a philosophy established by the likes of John Locke, Adam Smith and John Stuart Mill. It is defined as: "a political school of thought that upholds the rights of individual autonomy and private property, and maintains that governments should serve solely to defend those rights. Liberals promote the use of restrictive constitutions in the formation of governments, to ensure that their role is constrained to a defensive, rather than an interventionist, role."

Liberalism is all about Laissez-faire Government. Somehow this term has been corrupted in the USA so that it now means the exact opposite.

 

[jar2574]

I don't think many people have addressed warpus's point from the first page of this thread. Why does the term "liberal" mean "socialist" in the USA?
Liberalism is all about Laissez-faire Government. Somehow this term has been corrupted in the USA so that it now means the exact opposite.

Liberal does not mean socialist in the USA. It just means to the left of center. Some people claim that liberals are socialists, but most are not. Very few liberals these days are socialist, at least compared to European socialists.

So I wouldn't say that the term has been corrupted.

It has definately evolved when discussing USA politics. But liberal in the classic sense still exists, at least in discussions I've had with other Americans about economics.

 

[CurtSibling]

But what has this all to do with CIV4? Not much, I'll wager...!

The thread has melted into a wriggling mess of intellectual slurry.

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[Fox Mccloud]

Another reason we should all go back to CivIII Conquest.

 

[CurtSibling]

Another reason we should all go back to CivIII Conquest.

Silence, heretic - CIV4 rocks...!

 

[Fox Mccloud]

Silence, heretic - CIV4 rocks...!

yeah, but Civ3Conquest rocks more!