bioelectricclam
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So, this thread is about Civs that you'd like to see included in the Civilization series (either in an expansion or a future game).
Here are my suggestions:
C.S.A. (Confederate States of America)
Now, I realize that the C.S.A. was shortlived and it is easy to think that it ought to just be bundled into the U.S.A., but I feel that the Civ series is as much about what-ifs as it is about history. What if the Confederacy had won the Civil War and gone on to become a major Western power? It nearly happened if not for Confederate plans being intercepted by Union soldiers shortly before the battle of Antietam. C.S.A. scientists also contributed greatly to many modern military technologies, including iron-clad battleships, submarines, rocketry, and machine guns. In addition, many modern aspects of American culture, such as rock and roll, owe themselves to the unique cultural sphere that was cultivated in America's south. I realize that there is a certain deserved stigma about the Confederacy and its support of slavery, but many Civilizations that are represented in the Civ series have bloody histories of slavery and genocide - the Roman gladiator games come to mind.
Leader: I'd go with Robert E. Lee over President Davis, in the same way that Hannibal is treated as the leader of the Carthagians.
Unique Unit: Turret Ship* (Replaces Ironclad) +25% defense on coastal tiles. The Confederacy was well known for meeting superior Union numbers with the most advanced technology available at the time. To that end, much effort was done to convert the captured wooden ship U.S.S. Merrimack into an iron-clad warship. The new ironclad thus created, dubbed the C.S.S. Virginia, proved to be an effective deterrent against Union wooden ships, forcing the Union to quickly scramble to come up with a solution. The result was the first showdown between iron-clad warships, the famous Monitor and Virginia duel.
Unique Building: Plantation Home (replaces Castle) Garrisoned units heal 25% health/turn. Much of the Confederacy's economy depended on the existence of Plantation homes, large estates that dominated the Southern tobacco and cotton trade. During the Civil War, these houses served the confederate armies as command centers and hospitals.
Barbary
Perhaps the most famous pirate nation in history, the Barbary pirates patrolled vast stretches of sea, from the Mediterranean to the North Sea, from the late medieval period up to the nineteenth century. Barbary thrived on the African slave trade, with their corsairs sometimes emptying entire cities of their population to be sold to Libyan dealers. The nation was a serious threat to Christian shiptrade (as a Muslim city-state, the Barbary pirates famously spared any Muslim ships) and coastal towns up until the French conquered Algiers in the 1830s, leaving behind a legacy that survives today in literature in such books as Robinson Crusoe and The Count of Monty Christo.
Leader: Barbarossa (not sure which of the four brothers to choose though, haha). Here's one of them.
UU: Corsair (replaces Privateer) +50% blockade yield
UB: I was thinking some sort of coastal castle, but couldn't find an appropriate title.
Tibet
Just read the wikipedia article (Tibet's history is too long, haha).
Leader: Songtsän Gampo (Creative, Spiritual). Like many Civ leaders, I just chose the founder of the kingdom of Tibet as the leader.
UU: Lama (replaces Missionary) free Mobility promotion, not subject to border restrictions (as in, can enter an enemies territory even without open borders without penalty).
UB: Pillar (replaces Monument), +1 happiness per 25% culture slider (think Coliseum).
Hunnic Empire
Although they might be stepping on the Mongols toes, I feel that the Huns deserve a place in Civilization; after all, they managed to do what Carthage, the Celts, Germany, and Persia could not - beat back the Roman legions.
UU: Horsemen (replaces Horse Archer) causes collateral damage.
Leader: Attila (Aggresive, Organized)
UB: ????
Anyways, those are my suggestions, anyone have another Civ they'd love to see added?
*Historically, "Turret Ship" is somewhat inaccurate in describing the Confederacy's famed ironclad C.S.S. Virginia, as the ship did not have a swiveling turret like it's Union counterpart, the Monitor. However, I feel that this is the closest thing to a unique name for the Confederate ironclads, as they were simply called Ironclads in their day.
Here are my suggestions:
C.S.A. (Confederate States of America)
Now, I realize that the C.S.A. was shortlived and it is easy to think that it ought to just be bundled into the U.S.A., but I feel that the Civ series is as much about what-ifs as it is about history. What if the Confederacy had won the Civil War and gone on to become a major Western power? It nearly happened if not for Confederate plans being intercepted by Union soldiers shortly before the battle of Antietam. C.S.A. scientists also contributed greatly to many modern military technologies, including iron-clad battleships, submarines, rocketry, and machine guns. In addition, many modern aspects of American culture, such as rock and roll, owe themselves to the unique cultural sphere that was cultivated in America's south. I realize that there is a certain deserved stigma about the Confederacy and its support of slavery, but many Civilizations that are represented in the Civ series have bloody histories of slavery and genocide - the Roman gladiator games come to mind.
Leader: I'd go with Robert E. Lee over President Davis, in the same way that Hannibal is treated as the leader of the Carthagians.
Unique Unit: Turret Ship* (Replaces Ironclad) +25% defense on coastal tiles. The Confederacy was well known for meeting superior Union numbers with the most advanced technology available at the time. To that end, much effort was done to convert the captured wooden ship U.S.S. Merrimack into an iron-clad warship. The new ironclad thus created, dubbed the C.S.S. Virginia, proved to be an effective deterrent against Union wooden ships, forcing the Union to quickly scramble to come up with a solution. The result was the first showdown between iron-clad warships, the famous Monitor and Virginia duel.
Unique Building: Plantation Home (replaces Castle) Garrisoned units heal 25% health/turn. Much of the Confederacy's economy depended on the existence of Plantation homes, large estates that dominated the Southern tobacco and cotton trade. During the Civil War, these houses served the confederate armies as command centers and hospitals.
Barbary
Perhaps the most famous pirate nation in history, the Barbary pirates patrolled vast stretches of sea, from the Mediterranean to the North Sea, from the late medieval period up to the nineteenth century. Barbary thrived on the African slave trade, with their corsairs sometimes emptying entire cities of their population to be sold to Libyan dealers. The nation was a serious threat to Christian shiptrade (as a Muslim city-state, the Barbary pirates famously spared any Muslim ships) and coastal towns up until the French conquered Algiers in the 1830s, leaving behind a legacy that survives today in literature in such books as Robinson Crusoe and The Count of Monty Christo.
Leader: Barbarossa (not sure which of the four brothers to choose though, haha). Here's one of them.
UU: Corsair (replaces Privateer) +50% blockade yield
UB: I was thinking some sort of coastal castle, but couldn't find an appropriate title.
Tibet
Just read the wikipedia article (Tibet's history is too long, haha).
Leader: Songtsän Gampo (Creative, Spiritual). Like many Civ leaders, I just chose the founder of the kingdom of Tibet as the leader.
UU: Lama (replaces Missionary) free Mobility promotion, not subject to border restrictions (as in, can enter an enemies territory even without open borders without penalty).
UB: Pillar (replaces Monument), +1 happiness per 25% culture slider (think Coliseum).
Hunnic Empire
Although they might be stepping on the Mongols toes, I feel that the Huns deserve a place in Civilization; after all, they managed to do what Carthage, the Celts, Germany, and Persia could not - beat back the Roman legions.
UU: Horsemen (replaces Horse Archer) causes collateral damage.
Leader: Attila (Aggresive, Organized)
UB: ????
Anyways, those are my suggestions, anyone have another Civ they'd love to see added?
*Historically, "Turret Ship" is somewhat inaccurate in describing the Confederacy's famed ironclad C.S.S. Virginia, as the ship did not have a swiveling turret like it's Union counterpart, the Monitor. However, I feel that this is the closest thing to a unique name for the Confederate ironclads, as they were simply called Ironclads in their day.
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) So i don't know what "invariably" means. So let's look on dictionary.com:
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