COG Embassy

and classical, regentman, and bclg
 
Attendants:
Dustin = Methos
Rishab = COG Ambassador
Simon = BCLG100
Angelos = dutchfire
Regentman = Regentman
Ian = Classical Hero

Spoiler COG Chat :
Dustin says:
Good afternoon.

Rishab says:
hello

Dustin says:
I don't think any of my team is going to make it.

Rishab says:
Im not sure about mine but I'm about to post somethning saying that we've started anyway

Rishab says:
No, I don't think anyone from my team will be here

Dustin says:
haha, oh well

Rishab says:
oh well

Rishab says:
shall we begin

Dustin says:
might as well

Rishab says:
the problem is that there is not much to discuss

Dustin says:
Very true. I know we seek a peaceful alliance with the hopes that we can both work together in research and other things.

Rishab says:
same with us

Rishab says:
we don't want to rush and we don't want to be rushed

Dustin says:
Maybe we could discuss our research so that we could help each other out?

Rishab says:
are we allowed to under the isdg rules? I know were not allowed to discuss georgraphy...


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Dustin says:
From my understanding yes, we could talk about it, just can't trade yet.

Rishab says:
okay

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Dustin says:
We will finish our research on Bronze Working shortly. How about you guys?

Dustin says:
You back

Rishab says:
sorry about that

Dustin says:
No problem

Rishab says:
my wireless is very fragile

Dustin says:
Ah, currently we are researching Bronze Working, and will be finished soon.

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Rishab says:
currently were on the wheel and have archery.

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Rishab says:
bronze working will be next for us

Dustin says:
How definite do you need Bronze Working? If possible we could swap you BW for something else (once one of us knows Alphabet that is).

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Rishab says:
well alphabet is far off and bronze working is pretty essential so we'll just research it ourselves

Dustin says:
I understand.

Dustin says:
Maybe our next research path we can work together on so that we don't each research something the other one of us has.

Rishab says:
yeah once alphabet is a bit closer. Right now were focussed on exploring and adjusting our technology research based on what we find

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Rishab says:
besides I can't remember the exact numbers but were almost done with the weel and bronze working won't take long

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Dustin says:
Understandable.

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Rishab says:
yes. do you plan to expand to the north or south?

Dustin says:
Right now it looks like it'll be more north than south. How about you all?

Rishab says:
mainly were covering up the space outside of our capital, but stretching west a bit

Dustin says:
Wait one sec. Several of my team members are online and I'm trying to figure out how to add them to this conversation.

Rishab says:
i think you have to invite or something

Dustin says:
I'm trying, but its not working.

Rishab says:
what are theyre emails, ill try

Dustin says:
TitanicWhiz18 @ comcast.net

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! has been added to the conversation.

Rishab says:
im trying to invite him

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
hello there

Rishab says:
hello

Dustin says:
Hello, still trying to get everyone on

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
who do we still need to get on? Regentman?

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Simon has been added to the conversation.

Rishab says:
is that everyone?

Simon says:
evening all

Rishab says:
hello

RegentMan says:
Greetings everyone.

Dustin says:
I think we now have everyone

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
good evening too you too

Dustin says:
We just discussed research

Ian says:
Good morning to al ,since it is Saturday just past midnight here

Rishab says:
and touched on future expansion

Dustin says:
Sorry Rishab, we may have to go over some of it again. My apologies

Rishab says:
its fine

Simon says:
Rishab is that your username also?

Rishab says:
no on msn its rishubhav@hotmail.com

Simon says:
no i mean like on the forum

Rishab says:
oh no its RIshubhav there too

Simon says:
ah right k

Simon says:
so what was the eventuality with the research discussion?

Rishab says:
not much since we can't trade until alphabet and thats a while away

Dustin says:
Let me find it real quick

Dustin says:
Rish stated they were currently on the wheel, and had archery. We stated we'll finish BW soon

Dustin says:
I don't believe Rish wanted to wait and allow us to trade them BW

Rishab says:
no, because we will get it soon and alphabet is quite a ways away

Dustin says:
If there was some way we could work together on our research so that we could better trade to each other later. I hate to have both of us research the same thing and not be able to trade it later

Simon says:
well tech line for rishab would be pots---->writing--->alpha

Rishab says:
well right now most of our research is touch and go. We can come up with a general research path in a few days and perhaps email it so that we can coordinate

Simon says:
think that is about 400 beakers

Dustin says:
That sounds good Rishab, and we could do the same.

Rishab says:
well BW is definetly next on our path but after that we can come up with a path

Dustin says:
I believe we may be researching IW next

Dustin says:
So as our teams decide on their research path, we can discuss it with each other for future trades?

Rishab says:
yes

Rishab says:
that sounds good

Dustin says:
Is there anything else on research, or should we continue on with land as we were discussing?

Rishab says:
no, i tihnk thats it for research

Rishab says:
the prob with land is that we can only be general till paper

Dustin says:
True, but we can still discuss it.

Dustin says:
We just can't trade maps or anything until later

Rishab says:
well also we can't talk about the geography much and give details and such

Dustin says:
We can discuss where we are at in relation to each other, or those around us I believe? What about it RM, your our UN rep?

RegentMan says:
Yes, we just can't trade screenshots. But we can say, "By the jungle" or "A big lake" etc.

Rishab says:
okay

Rishab says:
have you guys met anyone else?

Dustin says:
Yes, what about you all? Have you met anyone?

Rishab says:
no

Simon says:
ah your missing out, this whole diplomacy lark is the only thing giving us to do- the whole team is getting pretty bored of my updates now

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
you should do more nice screenies like in the beginning

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
they kept me busy

Dustin says:
Rish, are you land locked down there?

Rishab says:
how many people have you met?

Dustin says:
Just one.

Rishab says:
I don''t think so because thers a whole lot of water near us. What about you?

Dustin says:
I don't believe so either.

Dustin says:
Will you let us know if you contact anyone?

Rishab has left the conversation.

Dustin says:
Hello again

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Dustin says:
No problem, I understand

Dustin says:
Rishab you here?

Rishab says:
yeah

Rishab says:
did you get my answer to your question about being landlocked?

Simon says:
yes

Rishab says:
okay

Dustin says:
Will you let us know if you contact anyone?

Rishab says:
yeah

Rishab says:
who else have you met

Dustin says:
We've met GCA

Rishab says:
anyone else?

Dustin says:
Not so far

Rishab says:
who are they in the game? (like their ingame name)

Dustin says:
other than barbs

Simon says:
flying elvis i believe

Dustin says:
Wait a second, need to look that up.

Rishab says:
elvis, ok

Simon says:
might not be though

Simon says:
havnt seen a save for awhile

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
isn't elvis in the MTDG?

Dustin says:
GCA is yellow destiny

Simon says:
that might be it

Rishab says:
oh

RegentMan says:
Elvis = EVG.

Rishab says:
they're in first place on score

Simon says:
pretty meaningless at this point

Rishab says:
yeah, I know

Rishab says:
which civ are they?

Dustin says:
Rishab, how far south is your capitol from us? Would it take too long to hook up a trade network with each other?

RegentMan says:
Mongols, I believe. I'll check.

Dustin says:
Kiblai Khan (Mongols)

Rishab says:
were pretty far. If your on the coast it would be better to wait for sailing

Dustin says:
Hmm, okay.

Dustin says:
Sailing may be something we wish to consider.

Dustin says:
Do you all plan on researching Sailing anytime soon?

Rishab says:
I don't know. However it would have to wait until writing and open obrders because with our borders the way they are you would have to get inside the border to establish the "costal connection"

Dustin says:
Okay

Rishab says:
though sailing is probably going to be researched soon

Dustin says:
We should definitely stay in contact with each other on our research paths, to better help each other out.

Rishab says:
yup

Dustin says:
Another thing we should discuss is a treaty between each other.

Rishab says:
a nonaggression pact type thing?

Dustin says:
Yes, I see no reason why we can't sign a peace treaty between our two nations

Rishab says:
okay
Dustin says:
We'll keep in contact with each other to keep updated on each others progress .

Dustin says:
I see no reason why we can't work together throughout this game.

Rishab says:
fine by me. Once we get alphabet we can start tech trading

Dustin says:
Sounds good. We'll eventually have to decide which of us is going for Alpha

Dustin says:
Have you all learned a religion?

Rishab says:
not yet

Rishab says:
I don't think we plan on early religions

Dustin says:
Neither are we.

Dustin says:
Is there anything you would like to discuss Rishab?

Rishab says:
nope im all set here

Dustin says:
I believe we've discussed everything at the moment, but definitely hope we keep in close contact for future relations.

Rishab says:
sure

Dustin says:
We'd make an excellent team our two nations

Rishab says:
yeah

Rishab says:
we aren't necessarily going for the top spot, being in the top three will suit us fine

Dustin says:
Exactly, and the two of us combined can work together to achieve it for both of us.

Dustin says:
Working together we have a better chance of reaching that goal

Rishab says:
sure

Rishab says:
well keep in touch

Dustin says:
Yes. It was an excellent chat.

Rishab says:
same here

Dustin says:
Chat with you later than?

Rishab says:
sure

RegentMan says:
Nice meeting you.

Rishab says:
nice meeting you guys too

Dustin says:
Bye

Angelos! Angelos! Angelos! says:
Bye

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Hmm. While somewhat informative they don't seem very friendly -- it sounds like they want to do their own thing. Being new to the game they probably don't realize the importance of an early alliance.
 
croxis said:
Hmm. While somewhat informative they don't seem very friendly -- it sounds like they want to do their own thing. Being new to the game they probably don't realize the importance of an early alliance.

I agree, so how do we best deal with them?

Note: OP has been edited to add a section for chats.
 
Yes, with the exception of meeting other teams. I find it hard to believe COG hasn't met anyone yet, while we've met three! Surely there's another group out there near them.

We need to think of a fair way to split research. COG and BAT can't give us both alphabet. I think we need to be the ones to research it, while BAT gets middle, and COG gets bottom. Then we can trade alphabet to both teams and get really caught up.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed a little "unfriendliness."
 
Damn, now my name in this chat is that of the worst buy Feyenoord (my favourite soccer team) has made in years (and they sure had some terrible buys before.
 
What nationlaity are they? The forum I mean not the civ.

What you see as unfriendliness may have been two things. First off he was outnumbered in the chat...in the future if they only have one guy in chat only one of us chat. Use the Private feature to realy your questison to the "talker". Second he was hiding what he knows

In addition...You learned zilch from him. He basically said they are reasearching 3 or 4 different things. I hate to say it...but you gusy gave away wayyyy too much info and got very little back in return.

The only thing you do know is he is on the water. And they have archery...
 
OK just wasnt sure...his phrases seemed a bit awkward in some parts. Might just be his nervousness in dealing with so many people. They are not a big group so they know if any one screws up its going to be quite obvious and blame is likely to fall on one person.
 
I’ve been working with the demographics screen. By cross referencing all the data it’s like a big logic puzzle can tell us all kinds of stuff. It is time consuming work and not without error, but I’m still checking and making new discoveries.

COG is mostly done so here is what I got.

4000 capitol built: GNP 9, MFG 3, Crop 4. 3/9 of the capitols initial tiles were water and health was 4, so either no fresh water or hardly any forest.

3880 border expands, 3-5 water tiles in fat cross

3840 warrior built

3680 Archery discovered

3640 Scout built (scouts are invisible to this process so I’m just guessing really, but this is the earliest it could have been built)

3600 Pop grows, Crop 7

3480 free tech, probably fishing but haven’t really checked yet.

3360 contact with us

3280 Pop 3 (Bronze working in 4 turns or so, I assume this is their next tech if they want Iron)
 
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