Colossus?

[Illusion13]

Back in Civ 2, the Colossus was THE most important wonder to have if a super science city is what you desire.

Course the Civ 4 Colossus is a huge improvement over the Civ 3 one, but even then, sure the extra coin is good if you wanted to make commerce cities, however oceans are NOTHING compared to cottages when it comes to coins...

Dont even get me started on the Civ 3 Colossus... Why would ANYONE build that thing... Well save for OCCs... I mean, if you want a city to be a beaker popping powerhouse, you wouldnt build it on a coast... Right?

 

[azmodean]

I was a big fan of Colossus in Civ I, too. Anyway in Civ 4 it is a Land Type and Victory Condition thing. Some games it is massively influential, others it would be a waste of time.

 

[Milly]

What did the Civ 2/3 Colossuses (Colossi?) do?

 

[Zenon_pt]

We should have thread about the evolution of Wonders in civ's games.

 

[Illusion13]

In Civ 2, Colossus gave +1 trade (money point thingie) to every tile in the city's fat cross. Can be built in any city.

In Civ 3, Colossus gave +1 commerce to all water squares in the city that it is built. And the city has to be costal.

See the HUGE difference?

And I agree about needing an evolution of wonders thread.

 

[Verge]

Wonders evolve or even change completely from game to game; I don't see a big deal in that. If you're looking for wonders to build in your science city, look at something like the Great Library.

 

[Breunor]

In Civ IV, the Colossus is a powerhouse for island/archipelago maps. On large archipelago map, it's arguably one of the best wonders.

You may underestimate how good these coastal cities are. Yes, they have less commerce than cottages, but they get oodles and boodles of trade to go with their strong sea gold. If you have a financial CIV on a large island map and get the Colossus and the Lighthouse, you can pretty much declare yourself the winner.

Best wishes,

Breunor

 

[gopher666]

In Civ IV, the Colossus is a powerhouse for island/archipelago maps. On large archipelago map, it's arguably one of the best wonders.

You may underestimate how good these coastal cities are. Yes, they have less commerce than cottages, but they get oodles and boodles of trade to go with their strong sea gold. If you have a financial CIV on a large island map and get the Colossus and the Lighthouse, you can pretty much declare yourself the winner.

Post quoted for truth. I can't count the number of sea-based maps I've played William the Orange or some other FIN leader, gotten those two wonders (with possibly the Temple of Artemis, to make matters worse), and raced lightyears ahead of all competition, getting Liberalism when the others are struggling with Code of Laws and Civil Service. Gotta love it.

 

[Winth]

Well, Colossus can be quite powerful. Get a lot of coastal cities (so called "fishing villages", which concentrate upon coasts, sometimes have pretty poor land like Tundra or Ice, except water) and let them suck cash from the water.

Benefits is that you:
1: Can mix it with Great Lighthouse, which provides a lot of reason to put those coastals.
2: You can make use of a pretty bad land - one-tile islands, polar or desert areas with an access to coast...
3: You can't plunder a water tile. Sure, you can contain every single controlled water tile on the map with a ship, but that won't make any sense.
4: Water often yields mighty resources like Fish, Crabs and Clam. They will help them grow and can make a powerful drafting/whipping city as well.
5: Don't forget the effect works in every coastal tile of your civ.
6: Coastal cities are fairly cheap to use. Just build (or whip) Lighthouse and you are set. Add in a Harbor for a good measure, and science/cash pumping buildings.
7: Those coastal cities can produce ships, which lets the other cities concentrate upon more important tasks. (yeah, a typical fishing village will have to whip)
8: Finally, a simple Metal Casting slingshot can guarantee you The Colossus.

 

[Gibsie]

Also remember it applies to inland sea tiles as well- if you get a few of them and give them the extra gold (3 food/ 3 gold) then it'll really help there as well. Nearly as good as a cottage'd flood plain, and obviously if you're financial too... yum!