Come on already, Iran!

[Azadre]

I am getting very excited about Iran's developing nuclear programs!!!


Former president: Iran not to give up right to develop nuclear energy
Former Iranian president annd current Chairman of the Expediency Council (EC) Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said on Friday that Iran will never give up its right to develop nuclear energy for "peaceful purposes."

"No official in a country like Iran will ever dare deprive his own people from the benefits of this decisive technology and, more significantly, from an important science to which they have a right," Rafsanjani said in his Tehran Friday Prayer sermon, quoted by IRNA.

"The Islamic Republic has never been guilty of blackmail or made concessions on minor issues and with more reason will not be compelled to give concessions on the more important issue of technology to produce nuclear energy."

Rafsanjani said Iran will continue its pursuit of technology to develop nuclear energy for "peaceful purposes."

"We are against using this science for military affairs and we will continue in our path," he told worshipers at the campus of Tehran University.

"If the world cooperates with us on the peaceful use of nuclear technology, we will be able to resolve the issue. And if they try to bully us, then each will carry out his perceived duties." (Albawaba.com)



The most efficient energy!!! Yeah!

 

[SeleucusNicator]

I'm getting very excited about bombing Iran's nuclear program.

 

[Perfection]

Ummm, nuclear energy is very efficient and very clean. I think what we should do is allow Iran to build nuclear reactors, just as long as an international force can keep an armed presence to assure that it doesn't fall into the hands of terrorists. It's as simple as that!

 

[philippe]

On another day c’mon c’mon
With these ropes I tied can we do no wrong
Now we grieve cause now is gone
Things were good when we were young

With my teeth locked down I can see the blood
Of a thousand men who have come and gone
Now we grieve cause now is gone
Things were good when we were young

Is it safe to say? (c’mon c’mon)
Was it right to leave? (c’mon c’mon)
Will I ever learn? (c’mon c’mon)
(c’mon c’mon c’mon c’mon)

As I make my way c’mon c’mon
These better nights that seem too long
Now we grieve cause now is gone
Things were good when we were young

With my teeth locked down I can see the blood
Of a thousand men who have come and gone
Now we grieve cause now is gone
Things were good when we were young

Is it safe to say? (c’mon c’mon)
Was it right to leave? (c’mon c’mon)
Will I never learn? (c’mon c’mon)
(c’mon c’mon c’mon c’mon)

Is it safe to say? (c’mon c’mon)
Was it right to leave? (c’mon c’mon)
Will I never learn? (c’mon c’mon)
(c’mon c’mon c’mon c’mon)

And no this day these deepened wounds don’t heal so fast
Can’t hear me croon of a million lies that speak no truth
Of a time gone by that now is through


SARCASM/ONN I am so excited we are getting our selfs a new pair of nukes! SARCASM/OFF
Why spending money on that?

 

[CurtSibling]

I'm getting very excited at the prospect of another round of war foolishness!

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

Iran is entitled to develop nuclear energy. While taking the necessary steps to dissuade them from pursuing a nuclear weapons programme, we musn't forget that.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

Iran is entitled to develop nuclear energy. While taking the necessary steps to dissuade them from pursuing a nuclear weapons programme, we musn't forget that.

The Iranian government cannot be trusted to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes only.

The rest of the world is surely entitled to protecting itself by ensuring that such an oppressive theocracy with proven terrorist ties does not get its hands on such technology. Iran cannot be allowed to develop anything beyond its current means.

 

[CurtSibling]

The rest of the world is surely entitled to protecting itself by ensuring that such an oppressive theocracy with proven terrorist ties does not get its hands on such technology. Iran cannot be allowed to develop anything beyond its current means.

Says who?

And would the 'rest of the world' include nations on the US hitlist?

 

[The Last Conformist]

Morals aside, the question is if they can be stopped by means that represent less danger than a continued Iranian nuclear programme.

I'm growing increasingly pessimistic about the possibilities of stopping any gov't that wants it from getting nukes in the longer run. Time to build a nuclear shelter in the backyard, I guess.

 

[airrahul]

waste of money on Iran's part but seeing how Iraq has been invaded and it is being isolated geographically by increased US presence in Afghanistan and Iraq, I can't blame its leaders for taking this decision. Still, moneny like that would be better spent on primary education or something to foster economic growth and hence prosperity.

 

[CenturionV]

The Iranian government cannot be trusted to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes only.

The rest of the world is surely entitled to protecting itself by ensuring that such an oppressive theocracy with proven terrorist ties does not get its hands on such technology. Iran cannot be allowed to develop anything beyond its current means.

Of course they cannot be trusted. The problem being that stopping them from building nukes, is like trying tos top a primitave people from building firearms, one they get the technology it becomes cheaper and cheaper and easier to make the weapons, eventually every single nation on earth will most likely be able of building nuclear weapons within week, maybe days. Unless you plan on supressing the basic technology (very VERY hard) eventually they will get to a stage where they can make it easily without any one elses knowledge, now where probably 50-100 years away from anything like that, but eventually no manner of bombing will stop them from getting the nukes.

Thats why in my opinion our 2 main goals should be

A. stop and delay as many nations as possible from building nukes while we.....
B. Build an effective defense against them, it is possible, just expensive.

Its likely that at one point or another as nukes become more and more prominent some day some one is gonna fire one off some where, and we are REALLY gonna want that defense on that day.

 

[shadowdude]

I'm getting very excited about bombing Iran's nuclear program.

Yeah, me too

 

[CurtSibling]

Since the US is supposedly pulling from the Iraqi mess soon, they will be looking for a new cesspool to inflict upon Allied troops.

Looks like Iran might be an easy target...Hence, a viable Western target.

 

[CurtSibling]

Yeah, me too

I take it you heroes will be on the frontline, supporting your nation as soldiers?

Or will you be armchair warriors, ducking for cover?

 

[Perfection]

Paradoxically, I think the best way to prevent nuclear weapons is to actually give nuclear technology. If the international community helps build plants and aid them in the development of a nuclear economy everyone wins. The international community/country will end up with improved relations because they are acting in an inviting rather than hostile way. The nuclear plants will be monitered by multinational forces ensuring that nuclear materials aren't going to be used in weapons. The economy of the country improves because the energy will be cheaper. The economy of the international community will improve with less strain on fossil fuels. The environment will gain because there is less use of fossil fuels. It's a win-win-win-win solution!

 

[SeleucusNicator]

Since the US is supposedly pulling from the Iraqi mess soon, they will be looking for a new cesspool to inflict upon Allied troops.

Looks like Iran might be an easy target...Hence, a viable Western target.

Using the Israelis has worked in the past and may be an option if we continue to be bogged down in Georgie Boy's little Mesopotamian Adventure. They have aircraft that could easily strike suspected Iranian targets.

 

[CurtSibling]

Using the Israelis has worked in the past and may be an option if we continue to be bogged down in Georgie Boy's little Mesopotamian Adventure. They have aircraft that could easily strike suspected Iranian targets.

I reckon the IAF is desperate to blast some Persian targets.

Good luck to them - Why should our (US/UK) men die over these mindless despots in Tehran?

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

The Iranian government cannot be trusted to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes only.

The rest of the world is surely entitled to protecting itself by ensuring that such an oppressive theocracy with proven terrorist ties does not get its hands on such technology. Iran cannot be allowed to develop anything beyond its current means.

The cause of dissuading Iran from building nuclear weapons is not helped, and is in fact hindered by refusing to acknowledge Iran's right to develop nuclear power. The best and only realistic means of exerting pressure on Iran is through international law, regardless of your disdain for it. Iran's reluctance to engage with the IAEA is only boosted by US hostility to a legal non-military nuclear programme. There's no conflict in acknowledging the right to a peaceful nuclear programme while opposing via all necessary means a nuclear weapons programme, as laid out in the non-proliferation treaty.

Do you think the US approach actually aids the cause of dissuading Iran, or are you resigned to the innevitability of a future conflict that would plunge the region into further chaos?

 

[airrahul]

And SeleucusNicator, actions by them will get Hizbollah to give them trouble, fire up the Palestinians, piss off Muslims in general, and perhaps cause Iran to launch something nasty at them. I say, only the US, EU, and IAEA are justified in taking action as they are dealing with Iran diplomatically right now, not Israel. However, I think a deal such as "we end sanctions, you allow us to constantly inspect your nuke sites and you aren't allowed to build nuke weapons" would be best.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

Paradoxically, I think the best way to prevent nuclear weapons is to actually give nuclear technology. If the international community helps build plants and aid them in the development of a nuclear economy everyone wins. The international community/country will end up with improved relations because they are acting in an inviting rather than hostile way. The nuclear plants will be monitered by multinational forces ensuring that nuclear materials aren't going to be used in weapons. The economy of the country improves because the energy will be cheaper. The economy of the international community will improve with less strain on fossil fuels. The environment will gain because there is less use of fossil fuels. It's a win-win-win-win solution!

The Iranian despots will never agree to any foreign armed forces having that degree of authority in their nation. Even if forces or inspectors were allowed in, they could easily be led around and fooled; look at North Korea.

Past experienced has shown the folly of working with and trusting such regimes.