Computer smarter than first thought Q&A

angelus512

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Hey people many thanks for those who responded to my first question on these boards and in short order here is another.

I'm still playing the game i mentioned last time.
I am Byzantines on a mid-sized island in the middle of the map with fat continental empire China to the left of me and an entire continent to himself Inca civ below.

The other civ's are more or less managable for me. Anyways I read the Machiavelli Doctrine on Strategy Articles which I thoroughly recommend people check out.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116771

Now I had most of the world eating out of my hand in this regard either through Luxuries or Strategic Resource trade.
So a good proportion of the civ population won't dare declare war on me because they need me too bad.

I accomplished this the only way a seafaring civ should....i've single city outposts all around the world on strategic or luxury resources I took by force from others and then handed them back to them at a hefy cost...for now unless they displease me.

Anyways sorry about the background there i get carried away sometimes. My Primary question is I was leading in tech but a respectable amount (despite my small size) for quite some time up until almost Industrial age.
At that point another civ who seemed to have caught up technologically and surpassed me by a good 2-3 techs (i think it was the Egyptians) for some reason decided to "gift" ALL the tech they had to every single civilization....except me of course.

How do i know they gifted? Because some of the civs who had all the latest tech were total backwaters who didn't even have The Republic researched and had 0 treasury and no luxuries.

So i guess what i'm asking is, is this just a freak accident (oh i was at war with the Egyptians for a time). Or have they deliberately made a calculated decision to remove some of my supremacy by teching up the civs around me? If so the comp is programmed better than i originally itended.
Because now i'm behind by 4-5 techs and most nobody will trade me....

Final question. Short one.
One of my prized Client States (read mach doctrine link to understand) The Ottomans i've noticed something about and its true for me of ALL games i've played with them.
No matter how much they get from me either free or for things I need they never...repeat NEVER go beyond Polite towards me or even show a smile unlike other civs who SMILE at you in F4 when polite if they seem quite happy.
Ottomans are always on the surly side of polite towards me in ALL games regardless of my power, and in this one...ITS A LOT and i've singlehandedly lifted them outa the stone age (for a purpose).

Why? WHy?
Many thanks for those braving the lengthy post that coulda been a lot shorter.
 
At emperor the AI has a 150 trading between them. If you are at war with the tech leader, they often will trade techs for alliances or RoP or MPP.

So I would expect they made a deal and they got peddled all around at a sizeable discount.
 
I forgot to mention i'm playing on Regent level at the moment, going to switch up to Monarch next game.
And in terms of MPP's or MA's none-existent. I mean they are around now but at the time of the tech gifting nothing.
Not even ROP's, i keep an eye on people fairly carefully and remember there was no weird sudden signing of such agreements.
 
Sorry some how I got in my head you were playing emperor. So the discount is smaller at Regent.
RoP and Mpp techs are later in the game, but you can do alliances with Writing. So if they do not have am alliance, then they must have sold them dirt cheap. Check the F4 to see if they have one.
 
Dirt cheap then.
I know whats going on in the world. Everybody has the capacity for MA, MPP's or ROP's since Egypt decided to spread Nationalism around to EVERYBODY even the backwaters i spoke of.

Civs with 10bucks in the bank, no resources, no luxuries and about 8 cities. Nada thats it. Yet they get these tech's gifted, like an entire age's worth of tech's.
The computer gifts free or at like 5 bucks a tech i swear on this one.
Well when it suits the comp.
 
I don't know what to say then. In the main the AI will hold its tech, if the other civs have nothing to offer.

I see it all the time that one or more have a tech and it does not get spread around immediately as the others are at zero gold.

What may have happend is that a round of tech selling had expired and now they had some gpt available and a new round of selling took place. I doubt that techs were gifted, that seems to be a human only action.

I am not saying flat out that it does not happen, but I never noticed it.
 
To summerize my thoughts on AI intelegence:

The AI is smart when it wants to be.
 
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