Connecting via seaport

Ferigno

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So I'm on a huge earth map with the civs in the right spots. I'm england, so I'm on an island. They want pearls, so I found a city state around Vietnam that has pearls. I make them an ally, but I don't get the pearls because I'm not "connected to them". If I build a seaport, will I get the pearls?

By the way, the strategy of England on that island, with 15 other civs, is intense. Super fun. I highly recommend the Y.A.H.E.M mod maps. I'm rolling England as a one city civ, looking for a culture win.
 
So I'm on a huge earth map with the civs in the right spots. I'm england, so I'm on an island. They want pearls, so I found a city state around Vietnam that has pearls. I make them an ally, but I don't get the pearls because I'm not "connected to them". If I build a seaport, will I get the pearls?

By the way, the strategy of England on that island, with 15 other civs, is intense. Super fun. I highly recommend the Y.A.H.E.M mod maps. I'm rolling England as a one city civ, looking for a culture win.

The only way you won't get their pearls is if they don't have them connected. A lot of city states take some time to hook up their resources. Also, you won't get the message that its connected till the next turn.
 
The only way you won't get their pearls is if they don't have them connected. A lot of city states take some time to hook up their resources. Also, you won't get the message that its connected till the next turn.

But I still have to build the seaport right? If they're connected to the pearls, and they're on the water, then I build a seaport and it should all work out. right? lol.
 
So essentially no, the seaport (or harbor) won't make a lick of difference as to whether or not you get your pearls.
 
well that's garbage. So unless I settle on the mainland, build a seaport to connect THAT, and build a road all the way to Hanoi, I am not getting my pearls.

Or am I totally reading this wrong, and you're saying that I don't have to be connected at ALL to get my pearls? They just have to have the tile connected to them?
 
well that's garbage. So unless I settle on the mainland, build a seaport to connect THAT, and build a road all the way to Hanoi, I am not getting my pearls.

Or am I totally reading this wrong, and you're saying that I don't have to be connected at ALL to get my pearls? They just have to have the tile connected to them?

You're totally reading this wrong.

What they are saying is that if the City-state has access to the pearls, you get them. So the reason you don't have them is that the city-state has not yet sent one of their workboats out to the pearls to collect them. Whenever they get around to doing that, you'll instantly get them because you are an ally. Your roads and harbors don't factor into the equation at all.
 
Most likely, the City-State hasn't yet put a Work Boat on the tile, and that's why you don't get the Pearls yet. Trade Routes have nothing to do with it, nor does proximity to the city-state.

City-states will sometimes ask you to connect them to your Trade Route, but this is for extra Influence, and has nothing to do with providing resources.

Also, it's the Harbor that can connect a Trade Route, not the Seaport. But building a Harbor in your Capital doesn't do anything in terms of Trade Routes, only gives you the +25% naval production bonus).
 
Ah. I feared that I was misinterpreting. Thanks for straightening me out.

Now, how do I tell the Hanoi to get off their ass and start cultivating their pearls!

Thanks again guys.
 
Most likely, the City-State hasn't yet put a Work Boat on the tile, and that's why you don't get the Pearls yet. Trade Routes have nothing to do with it, nor does proximity to the city-state.

City-states will sometimes ask you to connect them to your Trade Route, but this is for extra Influence, and has nothing to do with providing resources.

Also, it's the Harbor that can connect a Trade Route, not the Seaport. But building a Harbor in your Capital doesn't do anything in terms of Trade Routes, only gives you the +25% naval production bonus).

Don't you have to also have a harbor in your capital to connect trade routes? I was playing an archipelago map and had 3 cities with harbors, but no trade routes. Built a harbor in my capital and all 3 started up.
 
You know, I was just about to consider this thread closed when an idea dawned on me.

The Hanoi aren't using work boats to harvest their pearls. What if I gifted them a work boat? When you gift a unit, do they get THAT ACTUAL unit to use? If they have a work boat, one would assume that they'd actually use it on their pearls, and we all win.
 
Don't you have to also have a harbor in your capital to connect trade routes? I was playing an archipelago map and had 3 cities with harbors, but no trade routes. Built a harbor in my capital and all 3 started up.

This is correct. If your capital is inland then build a harbour in another coastal city connected to it by road. That gives trade routes to all offshore cities.

You don't need harbours in other offshore cities until railroads come along then you get a 50% production bonus (effectively from the harbour). You only need 1 harbour per landmass until railroads, then every coastal city should get one unless you want to build real railroads.
 
It seems that you can't gift them non-combat units.

You know, I was just about to consider this thread closed when an idea dawned on me.

The Hanoi aren't using work boats to harvest their pearls. What if I gifted them a work boat? When you gift a unit, do they get THAT ACTUAL unit to use? If they have a work boat, one would assume that they'd actually use it on their pearls, and we all win.
 
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