Conquest of Middle Earth

[ROTCWinter]

Lord of Middle Earth

Have you ever wanted to experience the wonder, suspense, and excitement of Lord of the Rings? Well now you can with this indepth Lord of the Rings Mod called Conquest for Middle Earth. It has everything from Frodo taking the Ring of Power down to Mt. Doom to Lord Sauron Conqueroring all of Middle Earth. This Mod is customized in every aspect of Civilization 3 Conquest, it is acurrate with the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, and it should interest you if you are a fan of Lord of the Rings.

The thread leads to the Mod, the revised edition is finished.
"It came to me, my own, my Precious"

Here is the thread that is it located at:
Thread to Lord of Middle Earth

All previous post from 2 to 16 are now expired due to the release of the revised edition, Lord of Middle Earth! EVEN THE POLL

 

[Commodore]

Just downloaded and played a couple of turns for Gondor and man does Gondor ever have it tough. Osgiliath was overrun by the fourth turn, Linhir was besieged by the Haradrim, and Mordor seemed to be massing for the death blow at Minas Tirith before I decided to save and quit for the day. It also seemed like Rohan was going to send some help until Isengard took one of their cities, then they diverted the relief force to retaking the lost ground(curse you Saruman!!! ).

Despite my grim situation this is a very well put together scenario. I really get the sense of desparation and urgency that the good guys had in the books and movies. At first I thought the map was too small but once I got into the game it seemed to be the perfect size. My only gripe(trust me, it's only a minor one) is that the evil side seems a little too overpowered. I understand they need too be a little stronger than the good guys, but you may have gone just a smidge overboard.

Anyway, that's my two cents. Thanks for the scenario and keep up the good work.

 

[Taalen]

It's definitely the best LotR scenario I've seen so far. I hope you continue developing it, though - the power probably needs some tweaking (I think you might want want to weaken Mordor a little bit, not very much, but enough to reduce the pressure against Gondor a little bit. Other than that the balance is pretty good)

And, as I'm sure you know, the civilopedia still needs a lot of work. Have you considered having someone help you finish it?

Anyway, it's definitely a wonderful piece of work, I'm amazed by the accuracy level in it. I've been checking the scenario with a map of Middle-Earth in my hands, and your scenario is opening my eyes to many fine details I never noticed before

 

[ROTCWinter]

Thanks and I could use some ideas to put into the civilopedia so if you think of some things feel free to tell me. Thanks

 

[Taalen]

Thanks and I could use some ideas to put into the civilopedia so if you think of some things feel free to tell me. Thanks

What I mean is that the civilopedia still includes, for example, a whole lot of modern wonders and other buildings, and most buildings, especially buildings that create units, don't have accurate description in the Civilopedia, or have description of some original Civ3 building.

With your permission I'd like to take a look at it and see if tweaking the civilopedia is something I might do. I can't say I have much experience with modding Civ, but just how difficult can editing civilopedia be?

Edit: Now that I took a closer look with a civilopedia editor I noticed that indeed most old stuff has been removed, but some still remain. I'll make a list for myself and experiment a little bit..

 

[ROTCWinter]

Yeah i added those in at the last minute. I got kinda of lazy there but in the revised edition it will all be fixed. Also if you would like to help me with editing the civilopedia that would be great. Just let me know if want to change something in the civilopedia by posting it to tell me or if you want you could do it want and send me the files. It is up to you on that. Thanks for your offer. I make sure to credit you if you decide to help. Thanks

 

[Taalen]

I'll be traveling for the next couple of days, but when I get back I'll take a look at it..

 

[flexo]

The scenario crashes when I try to load my old saves (animname_prto_orc).

Getting into Mordor thou turned out to be a lot harder then I would have imagined. I had to sneak around and backdoor my way in at a high cost in hobbit lives. Frodo, sam and pip plus one unnamed hobbit died so Mer had to deliver the ring in Week 43, 3018 AD. They all died from "accidents" thou since they didn't attack and was just walked over by the dark forces.

I had to use Gandalf as homeland defense. He even managed to venture out and capture a town from Isengard but it turned out to be impossible to hold on to so it had to be abandoned and Gandalf retreated back to the shire.

Gimli and the others perished in vain attempts to attack the Balrog (or atleast that is where I saw them last). Perhaps I should have bombed it with Gandalf.

Gondor was the only civ to actually fall.

Didn't find any Gollum or Shelob units but then I didn't really venture out to look for them so I don't know if they were there.

 

[ROTCWinter]

I dont know what that problem is about the animane orc message because it has never happend to me before or anyone else that I heard of. Have you upgraded you civ 3 conquest version lately or is your middle earth folder in the right location. That is strange. But the revised edition will have all of the kinks worked out. I posted this scenario for people to play and see what was wrong so I could change it. Out of all the months and months I spend making this for you guys I want to make it perfect and I have already encountered and fixed numerous numerous problems and the game plays a lot better and more fun. But like I said all of the new stuff will come out in the revised edition. Thanks for your comment.

 

[ROTCWinter]

When I play the scenario you have to be quick and decive when playing. I have won many times in scenario by bringing the ring down to mt. doom without losing any of the hobbits and such. You just got to play smart. Who said Lord of the Rings has got to be easy right? Frodo and Sam had a rough time going down to Mordor. And Gondor and Rohan definatley had it hard.

 

[ROTCWinter]

And yes there is a shelob unit. If you look into the scenario you will find out a lot of details that are overlooked a lot, so just have a fun time and if you have any ideas on the scenario to make it better feel free to tell me. thanks

 

[flexo]

I have not upgraded Conqest since the 1.22 patch was released (and that was over a year ago). As far as I know there are no newer patches then that one. There wasn't any problem playing the game. I am unsure as to what 'animname_prto_orc' does but there was no problem playing and it must have been created sometime. It just couldn't load it back. Perhaps there is a spelling misstake in one of the file or it is case sensitive cause some of the letters were capitalized, will look into which once it were caps.

I think one of the main reason it turned into a hobbit death fest was when I was sneaking over the mountain range around east mordor and a worker couldn't work a tile cause I was in it and for that reason a hoard of orcs came upon them and killed four of them. Will try some other tactic next time. But as I recall it at the time I completed it there was also a large hoard of Isengard troops entering the shire so it might have been as much time as I would have had.

Rohan would probably have fallen in another turn or two.

I will have to look for the Shelob unit, I did see some giant spiders but I assume that ain't them since Shelob would be a unique unit.

I did see some dark riders, I assume they are the Nazgul so perhaps the witch-king is among them to. Don't think I saw him thou.

It might be nice if you had actual controll of the entire fellowship and not just the hobbits (add or turn over control of gimli, legolas, boromir and aragorn) including Gollum (I would suggest gullum to be a weak unit with extended vision since he has been in Mordor before). Might give the fellowship a bit more punch.

A fellowship army unit perhaps that you can add them all into? ok 8 units in an army might be a bit much plus they would all live or die then. Hmmm ...

Perhaps the ring should be unit instead of a price so you can use it? With some kind of power.

That is just some 3 am ideas ...

ed; I read in the other tread the explanation for the division of heroes that it was supposed to be for multiplayer purposes. Perhaps one could make to versions one for mp with the heroes divided among the civs and one for single player where you get all the heroes. Cause I kind of missed them and they would have been a great help.

 

[ROTCWinter]

Yeah I was planning on doing that actually. Also the revised edition is going to have all of the kinks out of it. The game right know on my computer is ten times better than it is online; I am sorry you guys have to wait for everything to be done to play the revised edition though, just keep playin and give me more ideas to add into the game.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

"Why does it share the precious, ROTC, doesn't he wants it for himself" I think the scenario is awesome, but I do agree Mordor is a bit too powerful.

 

[ROTCWinter]

yeah lol thanks


I am going to try some different ideas out to make mordor not too strong but not so easy when you play as the good guys.

 

[ROTCWinter]

Check it out!

 

[Luthor_Saxburg]

I've tried the game and it had very good graphics. However it ended very soon one of the 'King' characters died!

I was quite suprised as didn't expected that! And I think it was one of the less important hobbits.

I don't think you should lose the game if you lost 1 character. Maybe if Frodo died... then the game could be over, but losing Gadalf or the Dwarf should be OK. Their loss is already a huge loss in itself, why penalize the player even more by ending the game?

About the graphics I liked them very much with one exception: the 'right-down board' is hard to see with those colours. At least for me. The rest is very good.

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[ROTCWinter]

I've tried the game and it had very good graphics. However it ended very soon one of the 'King' characters died!

I was quite suprised as didn't expected that! And I think it was one of the less important hobbits.

I don't think you should lose the game if you lost 1 character. Maybe if Frodo died... then the game could be over, but losing Gadalf or the Dwarf should be OK. Their loss is already a huge loss in itself, why penalize the player even more by ending the game?

About the graphics I liked them very much with one exception: the 'right-down board' is hard to see with those colours. At least for me. The rest is very good.

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Thanks Luthor, and to answer your question, I have congtemplated on whether to have the hobbits king units too, but the solution that I found is that if you didn't and aragorn was defending them, the hobbits would be the first unit to defend instead of aragorn, since aragorn is a king unit. But inorder to have upgrades for hero units, I had to make them all be king units or the race of men coulb build frodos and sams as regular units.

But great question

 

[ROTCWinter]

Also guys, if you leave replys on the scenario thread, leave them on the Lord of Middle Earth scenario thread instead of this outdated one.

Thanks